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ChrisX ..... Since: Jan, 2001
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Jan 13th 2020 at 5:54:18 PM •••

I would like to bring back the prospect of making a page for mods of this franchise, much like what FadingEcho talked about before. At the moment, I will store what we need in this namespace. But we need to iron out what will be added for the mods:

  • Do we add only one section for all mods available or do we separate it to folders? (EG: Unfinished Business will be in separate mods than Alternatives (the Take a Third Option mod))
  • Do we add character sheets for certain original creations within the mods (or existing characters as portrayed in the mods?)

Thanks.

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SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
Jan 13th 2020 at 11:08:11 PM •••

I am no expert on such things but Game Mods are classed as Fan Works and generally get their own sub-page when split, such as the one for Total War or the one for Neverwinter Nights.

EDIT: Looks like discussion links still aren't working

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ChrisX Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 14th 2020 at 1:20:58 AM •••

The mods in question do not greatly change the main Baldur's Gate story, however. Let's take the 'Alternatives' mod for example. All it does is just give the player a small expansion from an existing game (First game, SOA and TOB) without adding much content. The normal default game will still work like normal. Does things like that warrant a brand new page, or can that be put in FanWorks/BaldursGate general page?

EDIT: Yes, I know. Discussion links never worked. Good thing I know how to maneuver it.

SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
Jan 14th 2020 at 1:28:14 AM •••

That's what I meant, all tropes from mods should probably go on a FanWorks/BaldursGate page together, not have a page for each individual mod. How much they mod the game isn't really an issue, they are still a mod

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ChrisX Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 14th 2020 at 5:50:16 PM •••

Well, the Fanworks page have been made. But the thing is... it was an accident I saved it on a Fan Works namespace. My original intention was to make a Sandbox page out of it first.

I think I should ask the mods to fix this...

Unsung it's a living Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
Jul 12th 2016 at 9:05:00 AM •••

Rather than just make a snarky edit, I'm going to ask the question: is the Bassilus entry under Meaningful Name meant to imply he sics basilisks on you?

...Because he doesn't. He 'hangs out' with a small army of the skeletons of his victims.

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Unsung Since: Jun, 2016
Jul 12th 2016 at 9:14:59 AM •••

The mage with all the basilisks is Mutamin, who's found at roughly the same time in the game, and whose name is sort of meaningful (petrification being alteration/transmutation magic).

Vios Since: Feb, 2012
Jul 9th 2015 at 9:14:01 PM •••

Given that the page is getting pretty long, and given that new material is still being created (a new expansion has just been announced, and there are the comics as well), should we consider a split?

We could use the same set-up as for Dragon Age and Mass Effect - a page in the Franchise space covering tropes for the whole Baldur's Gate universe, then separate pages for tropes only pertaining to a single game. It would take a bit of work to do, but I'd be willing to have a go at it if there aren't any objections.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 10th 2015 at 12:29:34 AM •••

Aye. I'll add it to Overly Long Pages.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Vios Since: Feb, 2012
Jul 10th 2015 at 9:00:26 PM •••

Okay, I've had a go at it: there's now a Franchise/BaldursGate page with specific pages for the two games, the two expansions, and the books. There are probably a few things I've put on the wrong pages. No (new) images or indexing, though, since the last time I checked those things were temporarily at less than full functionality - they'll need to be dealt with when feasible.

The franchise page still isn't short, however. I don't know what the threshold for alphabetical subpages is.

Oh, and links. They're still needing to be done.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 10th 2015 at 11:26:07 PM •••

Ho-hum. Where is the third medium page that justifies the Franchise/ namespace?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Vios Since: Feb, 2012
Jul 11th 2015 at 12:28:34 AM •••

Didn't know three were required, but there'll be three (game, book, and comic) once there's a page for the comics ready. (Didn't find any tropes specifically relating to them among the ones I sorted, so I'll have to write some up.)

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 11th 2015 at 4:35:52 AM •••

OK, that seems fair.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Vios Since: Feb, 2012
Jul 12th 2015 at 5:39:49 PM •••

To update: I've made a start on a page for the comics. Also, there are some images, since the uploader is working for me again.

FadingEcho Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 5th 2013 at 5:39:26 AM •••

Perhaps a page should be created for the various mods for this game, especially the character mods?

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Kalrot Since: Nov, 2010
Feb 5th 2013 at 8:02:24 AM •••

I agree. I've always disliked when tropes from mods are mixed freely with the rest on the page of the source game. Mods are equally worthy of coverage, but they should be treated as a seperate work and not be mixed with the source material. It's a bit like adding tropes from My Immortal to the main Harry Potter page (not really, but fanfics are and should be treated as separate works, and the same should go for mods).

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CaissasDeathAngel Since: Oct, 2010
Feb 5th 2013 at 9:24:05 AM •••

Truth be told, I don't see any issue with that, really. The modding community is massive for this series, and there will be a lot of tropes that are specific to them.

I would however say that things like Unfinished Business, which concern cut content, could probably remain on the main page (or both, perhaps)

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