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My understanding is that we need to either split this into multiple pages, or cut some material.

I had asked in an old forum project thread, but haven't gotten a response: should we go ahead and start cutting some or all of the old TV shows? They don't seem to be canon any more.

Either it happens not long after Endgame (as the population suddenly becoming big enough for the Emergence is what kicks off the main conflict) or around Far From Home (which is what one of the producers claim)

This subject has come up before; there's a thread below where I did some digging. I spelled out the chain of references that the 2010 start date is based on.

EDIT: I looked closer at the wiki's explanation. There's a full breakdown here, which I haven't really gone through yet, but their own explanation on the page you linked admitted that the possible start date could be either. They may have ruled in favor of one, but the other one isn't wrong either.

Re: Cloak & Dagger S2 - The most recent episode had Cloak reading a recently-published news article about Luke Cage's fight with Diamondback, which places C&D S2 just after LC S1. We also know that C&D S1 takes place 8 months prior to S2.

Eh, it's not the only place the labels are a little inaccurate for convenience's sake. The first Avengers movie is in the Phase Two folder, despite being a Phase One movie, in order to avoid splitting 2012 across two folders. For what it's worth, I'm sure we'll need to update things once Marvel announces their post-Far From Home plans.

The comic mentioned that the Loki from Young Avengers briefly crossed dimensions and visited the MCU. It's little more than a footnote compared to most of the other stuff on the list, but it's still something that qualifies as something that happened in this universe.

It's possible. I haven't watched Jessica Jones so I haven't seen the scene(s), but there is a note up at the top that our guesses for Defenders dates may be a year off. On the other hand, even with the current dates we can probably assume that the Raft was public knowledge in the MCU even before Civil War. We really don't know.

Not really. My own personal advice would be to give it at least a little time (a week or more, I'm thinking) so people can see the movie first. But if someone goes and adds Infinity War stuff tomorrow, well, if you or I see too much on an MCU page before seeing the movie, then we knew the risks coming here.

Haven't seen Homecoming yet, but Vision states in Civil War that it's been eight years since Tony revealed to the world that he was Iron Man. Civil War takes place in 2016, so that would place the event of the first Iron Man movie in 2008. If Homecoming supports this narrative, than I say that events of Iron Man should be moved to 2008.

Out of curiosity's sake, what was the source that Iron Man took place in 2010? If it came from a comic tie-in, ancillary material, or backgrounds details, I'd say that the dialogue from the actual films trump any other material.

I don't remember a specific source and would have to do some digging for it. We do know that most of Phase One occurred all in one week (the Fury's Big Week comic), and that Iron Man 1 was around six months before that (I don't think the time frame was explicitly stated in the movie, but I recall it being common in Word of God statements). The big question is, how much of a gap was between the "Big Week" and The Avengers? I do think I might have heard of some piece of hard evidence pointing to Iron Man 1 being 20 Minutes into the Future of its release, but again, I or someone else would have to dig it up.

EDIT: Did a quick search. Nothing concrete yet, but was reminded that in The Avengers Fury referred to Thor with "last year, Earth had a visitor". So that helps point to the Big Week in 2011, unless we start moving The Avengers and Phase Two/Three movies around.

Okay, I did some more in-depth research. But first, I have trouble with Twitter links; is the one you're referring to the same one referenced in this article?

Anyway, I didn't find a smoking gun of a Freeze-Frame Bonus showing a datestamp in the first movie, but I did find a pretty clear trail pointing back to 2010:

• An Agents of SHIELD episode (2-6, "A Fractured House") specifies that the Chitauri invaded in 2012.
• As mentioned before, in The Avengers Fury said that Thor was "last year". Not very specific, but good enough for an estimate.
• Thor and Iron Man 2 take place at almost the same time. Even without the Big Week comic, IM 2 shows Coulson take off mid-film and arrive in New Mexico in the Stinger. And the same arrival scene was used in Thor itself, so there's little wiggle room for a time gap in there.
• And Iron Man 2's time skip wasn't just implied; it specifically says that the end of the original Iron Man film was six months before.

So eighteen-ish months from Iron Man to The Avengers. It may have been retconned since then, but I'd like more confirmation before changing it. We should probably have a disclaimer at the top of the page explaining that, at current, we're disregarding the references to a 2008 start date.

(Special thanks to the MCU wiki, where I got most of this info.)

Got it: admittedly, given this site is practically an abridged wiki, we don't necessarily have to state Continuity as accurately as possible.