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Arawn
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04:22:39 PM Mar 18th 2013
Asoiaf's Daenerys and Jorah isn't an example. They don't even meet until she enters her marriage with Drogo. Moreover Jorah is always her servant, never a father figure.
Plainjennyg
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07:53:11 PM Mar 14th 2013
Does any one know if a relationship like this, in the non manipulative way, has ever been delt with in court? I mean, is there any thing illegal about it? Assuming the two people are an appropriate age. Does any one have any real life knowledge about a case involving the law?
Aeiouna
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12:16:23 AM May 8th 2012
I'm not sure the The Sims 2 example works, because I can't think of way a player could do that without using hacks/cheats (there's no way to remove a child Sim from a household without having him or her taken from the Social Worker, to my knowledge. And then the only way to add a child to the new family is to adopt them, which creates new family associations. Therefore, to the game they'd have a parent/child relationship, and in the game you can't marry off two Sims who see each other as family).
20LogRoot10
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05:28:34 PM Sep 25th 2011
While cleaning up the wicks for lolicon(now a character type), I uncovered the following example I was unable to properly reword:

  • In the post-Apocalypse novel Malevil, Emmanuel is torn on his precise relationship with fourteen year old Evelyne. He is trying to raise her as best he can, for her sake and the future of mankind, but he realizes that their relationship is not entirely adopted father/daughter and borders on Lolicon. He recognizes his Dirty Old Man habits and understands that if Evelyne grows to be beautiful then he has most likely raised a bride for himself.
20LogRoot10
06:47:17 PM Sep 25th 2011
shimaspawn took care of it.
Lyn
10:36:26 AM Dec 13th 2011
Ok, I need help: What the HELL movie am I thinking of? I caught this really good old movie on TCM at like 1 in the morning a few months ago about a man who falls in love with his ward in like the 1920's. It's a May-December romance because it's played as being very sweet: the actors were apparently a couple in real life and wanted it to be played as being a good thing. It's never been released on DVD...I can't remember the title or the actors!
69.19.14.15
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10:21:59 AM Oct 3rd 2010
Pulled out the Aoshi/Misao example. Please, please do not re-add it. It is not this trope: 1) Aoshi was her favorite, but he was not her caretaker. 2) Misao's attraction to Aoshi was always present 3) Whether he returns her romantic feelings is open to interpretation 4) There is zero emotional manipulation involved in creating their relationship — whatever that relationship might be.
shimaspawn
moderator
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04:38:34 PM Sep 17th 2010
Do not list the Dresden Files as an example. First of all, it's Teacher/Student Romance. Second of all, nothing happens. It's just Hot for Teacher. She's not being raised by him. It's not this trope.
108.3.153.25
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05:34:03 PM Aug 18th 2010
I'm a little confused on why this says anything about this concept being creepy. I thought part of the rules on this site stated that we aren't supposed to insert our personal opinions into these articles? So therefore saying that it is "creepy" would be biased. If they said people consider it creepy then it's okay since it's showing a general reaction, but it seems as if whoever wrote this seemed to do it out of spite?
shimaspawn
moderator
06:10:19 PM Aug 18th 2010
Unlike wikipedia, we are not required to be neutral. We are snarky, hang lampshades on things, and we're allowed to call things creepy.
Katsuhagi
06:21:30 PM Aug 18th 2010
edited by Katsuhagi
Yeah, we aren't neutral on anything like rape or child abuse, so there's no reason we should on this since it's related to both of those two things since it's about emotional manipulation. For non manipulative situations we have May-December Romance.
yanqui9
08:52:02 PM Feb 7th 2011
I knew of a situation like this in real life in college. Girl was dating this older guy she had known since she was 9 years old. She broke up with him soon after starting college though (I didn't do it! alas...) and yes, it was VERY creepy!!! Oh yeah, he was an eye doctor and she had been one of his patients. CREEPY!
Fanra
11:25:29 PM Nov 7th 2011
edited by Fanra
Yeah, we aren't neutral on anything like rape or child abuse, so there's no reason we should on this since it's related to both of those two things since it's about emotional manipulation. For non manipulative situations we have May December Romance.

Actually, this trope says it's about someone who had a protective role towards the woman when she was a child. Being "related" to rape and child abuse? Sure, in some cases it is, but you are painting a very broad brush here. Just because some (or even most) cases you know of are bad does not make them all that way. If Bob had a honest, clean protective role for Alice, then doesn't see her for 20 years, they run into each other and she decides after dating dozens of men none of them were as good a human as Bob, exactly how is this bad? Next you are going to say that because Charlie was Dora's boss 10 years ago when they were at that time employed by the same company that dating her now is sexual harassment?
Iaculus
12:46:23 AM Nov 8th 2011
Thing is, this is usually a deliberate ploy. Which is far more creepy.
JewelMaiden
10:09:03 PM Nov 26th 2011
It isn't always, though. And while I get that these descriptions are allowed to be more subjective than the same article on an ordinary Wiki, I've never come across another entry that's as spiteful and biased. Some of these examples are creepy, and some of them aren't, and I just don't see the need for such heavy-handed wording in the description.
Lanyard
09:30:46 AM Jan 11th 2012
I agree, I cannot see this as automatically being creepy. I know several lasting (now over thirty years) marriages out of similar situations, which really aren't rare, and they are happy, healthy and sane. What is said here is indeed rather judgemental and one-sided.
Madcapunlimited
08:03:16 AM Jan 17th 2012
Yeah, I agree as well— not inherently creepy, though it can go that way.
Gaalsien
04:37:44 AM Jan 20th 2012
Agree too. Seems to be a rather negative description and then examples where the man has no ill-intent.

Either the trope definition needs adjusting to emphasisise the 'grooming' aspect of husbandry and the examples adjusted appropriately, or the judgemental tone should be toned down.
67.210.156.194
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09:58:32 AM Aug 6th 2010
I was just wondering if there's a separate page for "non"-manipulative "Wife Husbandry"? Err, what I mean is, is there a page on TV Tropes that deals with the same lolicon/shotacon issue, but not with the "person in position of authority deliberately molds the young person into becoming a suitable spouse"?? Because it seems like there should be.
shimaspawn
moderator
08:27:57 AM Aug 9th 2010
Polaris
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03:48:00 PM Jul 20th 2010
There's an Axis Powers Hetalia entry in both the Anime section and the fanfiction section, but I don't see why the entries for the latter shouldn't be under the former instead; should they be combined?
ThePaintedMaypole
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04:09:51 PM Jul 5th 2010
Where on Earth is that page image from?
FreezairForALimitedTime
02:08:18 PM Oct 3rd 2010
According to the discussion archive on the old title (Hikaru Genji Plan), it is from a 1950 children's book called A Girl and her Daddy.
Meems
06:12:59 AM Oct 13th 2010
It looks like more of an example of Father, I Want to Marry My Brother to me.
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