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LordGro
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01:32:45 PM Sep 29th 2015
Funny how the definition of the trope Up to Eleven is different from the definition of the phrase "up to eleven" in the Oxford English Dictionary.

Has anyone ever seen a wick to Up to Eleven that actually uses the definition given on this page? I do know there are a billionnote  wicks that use the OED's definition.

Larkmarn
01:35:06 PM Sep 29th 2015
edited by Larkmarn
How exactly do they differ? They seem to be the same to me...

EDIT: Ah, I think I see. Are you referring to this paragraph?
  • Unfortunately, things like time, money, technology, and/or other factors will only allow that so far. So you just end up topping the last thing by a small amount. So you've been forced to leave room for your own thing to be topped later on. Then you top that new thing, this can lead to an all-out "topping" war. This may or may not be a good thing, depending on the circumstances.

That does seem quite odd, really.

LordGro
01:43:21 PM Sep 29th 2015
edited by LordGro
Did you read the description?

The description defines the trope as follows:

"Often, some people have the need to top things. (...) [Y]ou would like to take something, and push it beyond what's been done before.

Unfortunately, things like time, money, technology, and/or other factors will only allow that so far. So you just end up topping the last thing by a small amount." (my bolding)

Or as Laconic.Up To Eleven says: "Go one step beyond the previous maximum."

Whereas the OED defines "up to eleven" as "So as to reach or surpass the maximum level; to an extreme or intense degree". Which is a much more general meaning than the one given on this page. And as far as I can see, it is the meaning nigh-universally used in colloquial language.
Kinkzoz
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02:53:04 PM Aug 19th 2013
My amp goes UP TO 12!
ozxiii
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01:20:01 PM Oct 26th 2012
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Miashara
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08:48:00 PM Dec 1st 2011
Is there a reason the spaceshuttle's engines going to 109% is listed twice?
SonicLover
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03:20:32 PM Apr 7th 2011
What's the opposite of this trope? Down To One-Eleventh?
Komodin
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07:19:20 AM Dec 11th 2010
edited by Komodin
re:cut:

Up to Eleven found in: 3084 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 16,233 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

Emphasis mine. I hope you have a good reason for wanting this page cut...
CrypticMirror
07:22:12 AM Dec 11th 2010
This is a perfectly valid trope page, and yes it does get a bit of an injoke use, but if we were to cut every trope that got used as an injoke we'd only have three pages left and be as dry and humourless as The Other Wiki. Vote for no cut.
SomeNewGuy
07:22:23 AM Dec 11th 2010
Apparently, the guy says this and Beyond the Impossible are the new IANMTU. That, quite frankly, is pure bullshit. Keep it.
VVK
01:54:26 PM Oct 16th 2011
edited by VVK
I'm certainly seeing links like that to it, not that I'm defending any conclusion about what should be done, I don't know if anything actually needs to be. But they are being used to say "They used this trope TO THE MAX!" (especially this one I guess) or, with no specific trope involved, "This was JUST FREAKING EXTREME" (especially Beyond the Impossible).
SomeNewGuy
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07:18:11 AM Dec 11th 2010
Don't cut this. Its nowhere near as out of control as IANMTU was.
208.50.236.2
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10:03:07 AM Jun 29th 2010
edited by 208.50.236.2
The description of this trope, if it is based on Spinal Tap, is completely off-target. The point of "Up to eleven" in that film was that the amps WEREN'T louder than other amps. The point is that "eleven" SEEMS louder than ten, because it is a higher number, therefore it is louder. The amps Spinal Tap used weren't any different MECHANICALLY form other amps.
DragonQuestZ
12:45:14 PM Jun 29th 2010
The use elsewhere is this, so that would make it more This Index Is Not an Example.
MikeRosoft
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04:06:48 AM May 5th 2010
I don't know if this one counts, so I am putting it here: Doom has its iconic weapon, BFG9000 ... but Quake II one-upped it with the new and improved BFG10K.
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