11:50:21 AM Jan 5th 2018
Seems to me like at least a few of the anime/manga examples (looking at you, SAO and Death Note,) are not examples of this as the original group isn't a five-man band. Am I just misunderstanding the trope?
12:04:00 PM Jan 5th 2018
Being a Five-Man Band isn't part of this trope at all.
01:40:32 PM May 23rd 2016
Is Judas Iscariot really a Sixth Ranger Traitor? It is currently listed with the comment "Ur-Example," but while Judas may be an ur-example of a traitor, he is not a sixth ranger traitor. He is one of the original twelve disciples, and one of the first things that the remaining eleven disciples do after Jesus' ascension is choose another follower of Jesus (Matthias) to replace Judas. An important characteristic of sixth ranger traitor would be that he is a sixth ranger (an extra number), which Judas wasn't.
04:55:47 PM Sep 19th 2011
edited by DonaldthePotholer
edited by DonaldthePotholer
I'm not sure why someone created a Playing With page without any Trope Trope lines. However, I do have a way that this Trope can be subverted: If the betrayal is expected based on what we know about the character before, i.e. if the character is a Heel–Face Revolving Door, a servant of Les Collaborateurs, a Dirty Coward, a good friend or long-time member of a Quirky Miniboss Squad, etc. In effect, the audience expects the new addition to be a Civillain.
09:51:01 AM Jul 16th 2011
Why are a lot of these spoilered out? It's not as if it removes the chance of spoiling, since it's specifically about a new arrival who betrays the team.
10:08:55 PM Jan 29th 2011
I do not understand this natter. What is the difference between second season and second series? The terms are usually synonymous. Also — what do you mean the new G-2 is a still a traitor: you appear to be agreeing with what is already there.
- In the second season opener of Science Ninja Team Gatchaman, the team gets a new G-2 as a replacement for dead Lancer "Condor Joe" Asakura, much to the others' discomfiture. Surprise! He's a Galactor agent. Double surprise! Joe, Back from the Dead, kills him.
- This is the second SERIES, a continuation of the original. The new G2 is still a traitor.
02:36:05 PM Mar 29th 2011
Second season and second series are definitely different things. In the case of Star Trek, for example, the second season premiered in 1967 and lasted about a year, while the second series premiered in 1987 and lasted seven years. The confusion stems from the tendency of some anime franchises to change titles every year, presenting each new season as a new series. (Sometimes it really is something new; other times it's just an Oddly Named Sequel.) Of course, there are plenty of anime franchises that don't take this approach. I have no idea which is the case with Science Ninja Team Gatchaman.