Discussion Main / RedundantParody

I'm currently pondering on like mentioning how there's a few parodies of Spider-Man. Wherein Peter Parker, after getting bit by the radioactive spider, would instead turn into a horrifying Spider-like Humanoid Abomination. Even though that has happened to poor Spidey a few times in the comics and even appears in a few animated adaptions. I'm not entirely sure if it's this trope because the parodies that do thise do go out of their way to make their Man-Spiders more horrifying and murderous.

So, I know the real purpose of this page is "let's bash Seltzer and Friedberg" (and that's all well and good) but this example seems to me to be missing the point:

"Disaster Movie has a kid using foul language toward Hancock, at which point Hancock slaps him. Not exactly an amusing gag to begin with, but particularly not amusing since something even more hilarious actually happens to such a kid in the real movie. Even worse, this actually appeared in some of the trailers."

That sounds like they're reversing the gag back across the line of Refuge in Audacity — that it was a deliberate choice on the basis "having him just slap the kid would be darkly funny where a Megaton Punch is merely surreally funny". I haven't seen the film (please don't make me) so I don't know if that's a valid interpretation, but it seems that way from reading this criticism.

(It seems especially unlikely that they wouldn't have known about a gag that appears in the trailer, since that seems to be what they base ALL their jokes on.)

I seem to be becoming the guy who just keeps pulling things from this page.

• An episode of The Big Bang Theory has Raj mention he's writing a Captain Marvel/The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel mashup fanfiction, called "The Marvelous Miss Marvel". Thing is, Captain Marvel's original name actually was Miss Marvel, and her Legacy Character is starring in a book with that exact name.

I honestly can't see how the fact Carol Danvers used to be called Ms Marvel makes "Ha ha, Ms Marvel sounds a bit like Mrs Maisel" redundant. I'd go as far as to say that the reverse is true: knowing this is required for the joke to make sense.

The more I think about it, the less sure I am about the Bob Hope Batman entry. For one thing, Denny O'Neil didn't invent the villains calling the heroes disrespectful names; they were doing it in the sixties Batman series. If Hope didn't know that, he'd probably managed to avoid ever hearing of Batman at all.

But what was he supposed to do? Write a Batman parody in which the Joker was more respectful to his enemy? How would that have worked? Sometimes, a parody has to reuse a funny concept from the original because it's so much part of the setting that not including it would be weird.

I'm on the verge of just removing the "Hungry Games" example from the Web Original folder since it doesn't seem to parody anything in a redundant way. Sure the Main Character is called Catnip, but the redundancy seems to end there, and as such i feel that it's not really this trope, at least not fully. It kinda touches on it with the name, but everything else about the video is not redundant...

Just removed two examples that were Poe's Law, not this trope. Does the description or name warrant a second pass in order to avoid this confusion?

Okay, maybe it's just me, but this:

• The Dead Ringers Doctor Who spoofs are insanely well-researched as the writers are all big fans, but one of these managed to slip in there. In a sketch where several of the Doctors are celebrating Christmas together, there's a scene where the Ninth Doctor is flicking through Christmas television trying to find something to watch with the Fourth and Seventh Doctors, identifying celebrities and deciding that they are aliens. ("Cat Deeley! Alien!" "The Queen! Alien!") This exact same joke is used by the Ninth Doctor in the very first Ninth Doctor episode, in which he flips through one of Jackie Tyler's gossip magazines and identifies which ones are aliens.

...looks to me like they are parodying that exact scene, by exaggerating it. (In the original scene, he only claims one celeb is an alien.)

EDIT: Since no-one's argued with this, I've removed it.

Nominal Parody was merged into Redundant Parody per TRS thread.