Main Redshirt Army Discussion

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ebrown2112
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12:02:17 AM Jan 14th 2015
edited by ebrown2112
Removed this from the page:

  • Law & Order: In just about every iteration, cops who take over from the detectives will invariably fail in their duties at the most plot-relevant/dramatic times.

I've seen every episode of Law & Order (including SVU, CI, and LA), and can't think of any episodes offhand when this happened. But if it was true, how does it qualify as an example of Redshirt Army? Wouldn't the cops have to be killed?
SeptimusHeap
01:22:48 AM Jan 14th 2015
Yeah, that doesn't seem to be the right trope.
Larkmarn
05:36:07 AM Jan 14th 2015
It's a bit of a combination of Police Are Useless and The Main Characters Do Everything, as the Police Are Useless... except for the main characters.
Towersixteen
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06:21:43 AM Feb 15th 2014
"This Trope is actually very inaccurate when you compare it to Real Life. If you were to watch every episode of Star Trek: The Original Series, count the number of casualties that the Enterprise had, and then compare that to an actual military, you'd see that Kirk's record as a leader in this regard is excellent, far better than any general in U.S. history. Even war heroes like George Washington and Dwight Eisenhower had proportionately more casualties among their troops."

Can we think of a better example or something? Because as is we're comparing the casualty rate of armys in legit wars with the captain of a single crew during peacetime. It's a really meaningless comparison, I just don't have anything better.
Larkmarn
08:33:23 AM Jan 13th 2016
Yeah, that's a false comparison and adds absolutely nothing. Pulling.
MarkWilder
06:38:19 PM Jan 25th 2016
That is not a false comparison: The Enterprise's mission very often included military actions, such as destroying invisible ships attacking outposts and Superweapons designed to destroy entire planets. Unless you want to explain why the Enterprise (and all other Starfleet ships) don't need to be armed the way that they are.
Larkmarn
05:35:47 AM Jan 26th 2016
Except it's explicitly an exploratory vessel during peacetime. A better comparison would be an aircraft carrier group during peacetime. They may engage is skirmishes from time-to-time, and they may be prepared to go to war, but their overall mission is not one of war. The redshirts aren't soldiers on a warship in the time of war, they're security personnel on an exploratory vessel during a time of peace. Comparing the two is apples to oranges. Moreover, it's natter. In the description, no less.
RTanker
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07:06:29 PM Oct 26th 2010
I pulled this from the quote page:
Hear me unbelievers. You have come here to die. The immortal Emperor is with us and we are invincible.
His soldiers will strike you down.
His war machines will crush you under their mighty treads.
His mighty guns will bring the very sky crashing down upon you. You cannot win.
The Emperor has given us his greatest weapon to wield. So make yourselves ready. We are the first Kronus regiment, and today is our VICTORY DAY!
Governor Militant Lukas Alexander, Dawn of War: Dark Crusade

Because it does not represent this trope at all; this is much more a Badass Boast.
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