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19th Aug '17 2:05:11 AM Carnel
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** TheFederation forces in the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' had the [=GMs=], mass-produced mecha whose sole purpose was to die in droves against [[TheRival Char's]] [[LawOfChromaticSuperiority Gelgoog]], [[EleventhHourSuperpower Zeong]], or [[AntiVillain Dozle's]] Big Zam ([[MemeticMutation which weren't mass produced]]).

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** TheFederation forces in the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' had the [=GMs=], mass-produced mecha whose sole purpose was to die in droves against [[TheRival Char's]] [[LawOfChromaticSuperiority Gelgoog]], [[EleventhHourSuperpower Zeong]], or [[AntiVillain Dozle's]] Big Zam ([[MemeticMutation which weren't mass produced]]).produced]]), as well as the M61 Main Battle Tank for when they needed something that Zion's own {{mooks}} could threaten.
12th Aug '17 4:55:29 PM Linda58
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* In ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' we have the Starfleet task force fighting the Borg at Earth prior to the arrival of the Enterprise. They are doing far better then the fleet at Wolf 359 years prior, but they're still getting curb-stomped.
** ''The Enterprise'' security force continues the franchise tradition. However, they are shown to be quite competent, it's just that they're facing off against the Borg who can NoSell pretty much everything the security officers can throw at them.
26th Jul '17 3:53:03 PM mkmlp
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* The ACU personnel from ''Film/JurassicWorld''; They appear to be highly competent at what they do (reinforced when they respond to and quickly quell the ''Pteranodon'' rampage), but the ''Indominus Rex'' is far beyond what they're prepared to handle and a whole team of them are slaughtered.

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* The ACU personnel from ''Film/JurassicWorld''; They appear to be highly competent at what they do (reinforced when they respond to and quickly quell the ''Pteranodon'' rampage), but the ''Indominus Rex'' is far beyond what they're prepared to handle and a whole team of them are slaughtered. Later, when [[spoiler: Owen's raptors [[FaceHeelTurn turn on him in adopt the Indominus Rex as their alpha]], the group of very well armed men they brought with them are slaughtered in minutes.]]



** The Shaolin Monks other then [[TheHero Lui Kang and Kung Lao]] are slaughtered by the dozen, during the Tarkatan's raid on their academy in ''VideoGame/MortalKombatShaolinMonks''.



* Most of the other members of the protagonist's BadassBiker gang ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIVTheLostAndDamned'' turn out to be, only really being useful as {{meat shield}}s in the gang wars side missions.



* In ''WebVideo/UltraFastPony'', the allegedly elite squad of military pegasi are (initially) known as the Ineffectual Flight Team, and they're every bit as good as their name implies. Several episodes later, they reappear with the new title of Super Effective Flight Team. Unfortunately, "Changing their name did nothing to help their ability to fly!"

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* In ''WebVideo/UltraFastPony'', The titular Red and Blue armies of ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'' are an ''invoked'' version of this trope. [[spoiler: They're made up of the allegedly most expendable soldiers in the army, told to fight a made up war, so Project Freelancer can have a realistic training environment for their elite squad of military pegasi are (initially) known as the Ineffectual Flight Team, and they're every bit as good as their name implies. Several episodes later, they reappear with the new title of Super Effective Flight Team. Unfortunately, "Changing their name did nothing to help their ability to fly!"agents.]]


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* In ''WebVideo/UltraFastPony'', the allegedly elite squad of military pegasi are (initially) known as the Ineffectual Flight Team, and they're every bit as good as their name implies. Several episodes later, they reappear with the new title of Super Effective Flight Team. Unfortunately, "Changing their name did nothing to help their ability to fly!"
* Any group of players in ''WebVideo/SwordArtOnlineAbridged'' who are not recurring characters, are almost always completely helpless on their own.
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11th Jul '17 10:11:23 AM gb00393
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** Whilst they start off winning a few series of victories against the Tullys when led by Jaime, the Lannister army starts to lose battles and suffers staggering losses in each engagement once Robb Stark enters the fray. For example, that huge force Tywin musters to pillage the Riverlands? Precisely half of it is destroyed when Robb defeats and captures Jaime. The replacement army at Oxcross? Robb destroys that one, too. By the end of Season 3, Tywin has given up trying to beat Robb conventionally, and does so by playing to his own strengths: politics and intrigue.
27th May '17 12:59:41 AM Chabal2
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** It's been joked that the PDF is the Redshirt Army for the Redshirt Army. Hardly surprising, considering manpower is the only resource the Imperium has in excess.

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** It's been joked that the PDF is the Redshirt Army for the Redshirt Army. Hardly surprising, considering manpower is the only resource the Imperium has in excess.excess, with their commanding officers even more inept than the Guard's, and often inbred UpperClassTwits to boot.


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** In light of the above, what prevents Guardsmen from deserting first chance they get? The local {{commissar}}, who will be happy to reinforce morale, stiffen resolve, remove dissenters and punish heresy in a single *BLAM*. In ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar'', you don't even need to wait for a squad to be demoralized to use the commissar's Execute ability, as using it straight off the bat prevents morale damage and increases attack speed in surrounding squads. That's right: in 40K, the RedShirts sometimes die before even seeing battle.
7th May '17 9:36:58 AM nombretomado
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* Averted hardcore in the ''Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries''. When the special forces unit calls in the cavalry, the cavalry actually manages to kill or drive off the giant alien robots. They're even more effective in the sequel, managing to support a handful of Autobots in holding off a small army of Decepticons. There are cases when it's played straight. The first scene after the introduction has a US military base completely wiped out by a ''single'' Decepticon. The beginning of the sequel also shows many human NEST soldiers being killed off-hand. It's really the extensive training in killing Cybertronians that the soldiers receive from Autobots that allows them to hold their own (despite massive casualties) in the second and third films.

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* Averted hardcore in the ''Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries''.''Film/TransformersFilmSeries''. When the special forces unit calls in the cavalry, the cavalry actually manages to kill or drive off the giant alien robots. They're even more effective in the sequel, managing to support a handful of Autobots in holding off a small army of Decepticons. There are cases when it's played straight. The first scene after the introduction has a US military base completely wiped out by a ''single'' Decepticon. The beginning of the sequel also shows many human NEST soldiers being killed off-hand. It's really the extensive training in killing Cybertronians that the soldiers receive from Autobots that allows them to hold their own (despite massive casualties) in the second and third films.
7th Mar '17 2:32:22 PM Occidensill
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* Most of the characters from ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' are in one. Military training is essentially designed to weed out the weaker, less skilled, and less determined of the bunch by being [[TheSpartanWay physically and psychologically grueling]], but even the hardy recruits who manage to graduate can easily die in battle against the Titans. The manga has LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters mostly because it's quick to kill them off and introduce others.

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* Most of the characters from ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' are in one. Military training is essentially designed to weed out the weaker, less skilled, and less determined of the bunch by being [[TheSpartanWay physically and psychologically grueling]], but even the hardy recruits who manage to graduate can easily die in battle against the Titans. The manga has LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters mostly because it's quick to kill them off LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, but after the front line troops in the Survey Corps suffer several high casualty events, the ''only'' survivors of the final engagement are the main characters and introduce others.one random guy.
21st Feb '17 9:59:13 AM gb00393
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** In season 5 the Unsullied, stated repeatedly of being the best army in the world, are turning into this.

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** In season 5 the Unsullied, stated repeatedly of being the best army in the world, are turning into this. They have seemingly forgotten their basic training of forming up shoulder to shoulder into a shield wall and seem to be no more skilled man-to-man than a group of rebel Meereenese.


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** The Night's Watch is composed mostly of thieves and murderers who join to avoid their punishments. The rest of the kingdom forgets about them as they freeze and fight.
** Robb's diversionary army is seen as completely expendable ''in-universe''.
3rd Jan '17 3:32:04 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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Please note: this Trope is actually ''very'' inaccurate [[RealityIsUnrealistic when you compare it to]] RealLife. If you were to watch ''every'' episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', count the number of casualties that the ''Enterprise'' had, and then compare that to an actual military, you'd see that Kirk's record as a leader in this regard is ''excellent'', far better than any general in U.S. history. Even war heroes like UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington and UsefulNotes/DwightDEisenhower had proportionately more casualties among their troops.[[note]]It has been suggested that it would be more appropriate to compare Kirk's casualty rate to units on exploratory, rather than combat, missions. It must be remembered that the Enterprise under Kirk's command participated in multiple combat missions against warships with superior weaponry (such as in the episodes [[http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Balance_of_Terror_(episode) "Balance of Terror"]] and [[http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doomsday_Machine_(episode) "The Doomsday Machine"]] to name a few. [[/note]]

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Please note: this Trope is actually ''very'' inaccurate [[RealityIsUnrealistic when you compare it to]] RealLife. If you were to watch ''every'' episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', count the number of casualties that the ''Enterprise'' had, and then compare that to an actual military, you'd see that Kirk's record as a leader in this regard is ''excellent'', far better than any general in U.S. history. Even war heroes like UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington and UsefulNotes/DwightDEisenhower had proportionately more casualties among their troops.[[note]]It has been suggested that it would be more appropriate to compare Kirk's casualty rate to units on exploratory, rather than combat, missions. It must be remembered that the Enterprise under Kirk's command participated in multiple combat missions against warships with superior weaponry (such as in the episodes [[http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Balance_of_Terror_(episode) "Balance of Terror"]] and [[http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doomsday_Machine_(episode) "The Doomsday Machine"]] to name a few. few).[[/note]]
4th Dec '16 8:17:23 AM upupandaway42
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* The US military in Film/ManOfSteel. They're actually competant, just massively, ''massively'' outmatched by their Kryptonian opponants, a bunch of [[NighInvulnerability invunerable]] soldiers with SuperStrength, SuperSpeed and highly advanced weaponry and technology.

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* The US military in Film/ManOfSteel.''Film/ManOfSteel''. They're actually competant, just massively, ''massively'' outmatched by their Kryptonian opponants, a bunch of [[NighInvulnerability invunerable]] soldiers with SuperStrength, SuperSpeed and highly advanced weaponry and technology.
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