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06:26:40 PM Jan 13th 2015
This is one part of the central conceit of Hannah Arendt's nonfiction book about the Nuremberg trials, The Banality of Evil.
07:23:17 AM Oct 2nd 2012
I don't think Tarquin from The Order of the Stick counts. While he doesn't really hate the heroes, he is a clear-cut villain of the story, especially since he joined the race for the MacGuffin.
07:35:36 AM Oct 2nd 2012
Plus, the description that he isn't a sadist is untrue.

Either that, or while Tarquin might not get joy out of horribly tormenting people, neither does he see it as wrong.
10:01:13 AM Jun 9th 2011
I think the Westboro Baptist Church entry doesn't belong here. Unless I'm misunderstanding, this trope is basically for people who don't care about the cause they're fighting for as much as they do about getting a paycheck, which is definitely not true of the WBC. They'd probably fit better under Affably Evil.
06:16:35 AM Mar 19th 2013
I think most Westboro members are punch clock villains because they've been brainwashed since day one. You really can't blame the individual members for what they do. Blame Fred or those who joined the cult as adults.
08:51:51 AM Mar 19th 2013
That still doesn't describe a punch clock villain. Even if you're 100% right, they still believe in their cause even if it's because they're Brainwashed and Crazy.

Besides it's irrelevant as no real life examples are allowed.
10:18:47 AM Mar 19th 2013
I'm aware that real life examples are forbidden for this trope. I just wanted to express my opinion about them since it was already mentioned and that this is a discussion entry.

03:15:46 AM Apr 11th 2011
Just want to comment without nattering the main article.

  • They also would have been shot if they didnt follow orders.

A common myth, but it's actually not true at all. In fact, there was one case of a guy drafted to serve in the Police Battalions (which were basically the ragtag civilian Jew-hunting squads) who was so morally outraged at the work he was assigned to do that he spent months doing nothing but curse at everyone in sight and write angry letters to Berlin. Eventually, the official response from the top was to apologize to him and transfer him to some other less murderous job. Don't remember what it was exactly, but it apparently actually amounted to a promotion for him since it was a better paid or more respected position or something.
06:48:38 PM Nov 4th 2010
The slavery portion of this article is way too...wishy-washy. On one hand, it's basically saying "slavery and slavers aren't all that bad...", while at the same time, staying true to the article. That particular section should be cleaned up a tad, yet I am not sure how.
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