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10:34:35 AM Jan 9th 2018

  • In Philip Josť Farmer's Riverworld series, the soul is an artificial construct implanted by Applied Phlebotinum, recording one's life, memories, and existence to allow people to reincarnate on the eponymous Riverworld, eons later, and work their way to some kind of Redemption/Ascension/Crystal Dragon Nirvana. One striking scene shows a holding vat holding thousands of souls: this is metaphysics meeting brutally mass manufacture. Imagine: machinery handling souls like a billion ghostly coke bottles on a production line. In a supreme irony there is no proof for the final afterlife: the spirit engineers are profoundly religious.
    • This is backwards. The devices were not souls, they were the detailed recordings of physical humans, including all memories recorded by the brain. To rejoin the soul to a body, they needed the exact physical body it started with, because the soul had a blueprint of that body when it left the body once and for all. So they created the person's exact original body from the blueprint in the soul, which summoned the soul back into the unconscious body. They healed the body from all human ills, including whatever killed it and old age, so the soul would have a healthy young body to return to. Then they destroyed the bodies. However, when they were ready, they could recreate them at will, thus summoning the soul to a young healthy body and returning the person to life. The problem wasn't that they needed to create souls, but that the souls floated around unconscious after death, and they needed to create an afterlife.

because it's responding instead of repairing, except that I've never read this and don't know what's true so I can't fix it.
11:38:30 AM Jul 28th 2015
Is there any evidence for #5 in Short Circuit gaining a soul? As far as i can recall, he gains a functional AI. There's no mention of souls in the movie, at all.
09:55:36 PM Sep 21st 2011
I wonder how would a body act if it had no soul? Would it only act to fulfill biological needs? Would it even talk or show any form of emotion? Or would it just go into a coma? Or...something else?
08:07:11 PM Sep 2nd 2011
"The trope name is entirely self-explanatory. What? What are you laughing at?" Could somebody explain this one to me?
10:35:41 AM Jan 9th 2018
The joke is that on tvtropes, we never assume anything is self-explanatory, because inevitably someone won't get it.
05:01:08 PM Nov 30th 2010
"In Nerh�n, as stated in the preface, 'Soul' is treated like a form of energy like heat or light, that can be transferred and controlled, and that is the basis for the series' magic system. "

The accent mark in "Nerh?n" is irretrievably broken, and I can't find any likely candidates by searching with any unaccented vowel in its place and stuff like 'soul energy'. Anyone know what it is?
01:05:40 PM Nov 1st 2010
In Soul Eater... they are edible.
10:47:54 PM Apr 22nd 2010
There's a problem with the title, but I don't know how to edit this...
01:11:10 PM Jul 13th 2010
Don't sweat it, it's just a weird hiccup. Back when this page was first launched there was a capitalization error that was since fixed, but the discussion page remains with the old, misspelled, title.
08:29:58 PM Apr 12th 2010
"Now we know that what we call thinking goes on in our brains, which is something that dies and decomposes along with the rest of the body when it reaches the end of the life that was given to it, but this idea seems difficult to comprehend - not to mention unattractive - to us who are the ones in the pilot seat, so the loss of our mind is an event comparable to the end of the entire universe from a "

We know nothing of the kind. What we know is that there are electric impulses in the brain at roughly the same time as we happen to be thinking. No test could possibly find out if any outside source claimed to be immaterial caused said impulses because such tests by definition only test the material. The only thing we can possibly know is that we don't know. Which we already knew thousands of years ago.
02:03:36 AM Jul 13th 2010
Except science apparently has messed around with the brains of humans to cause thoughts. Sure we don't KNOW, but we bloody well can guess.
12:42:50 PM Nov 22nd 2010
Can we just say it's an open question that's probably impossible to fully answer and leave it at that?
04:13:21 PM Dec 23rd 2012
What about a cosmology with a mortal soul that's not separated (essentially, NOT a swirly ghosty thingie) from the body, like the Seventh-Day Adventists, Jenovah's Witnesses and some Jews?

How it affects classic soul tropes?

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