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25th May '17 9:47:33 PM Az_Tech341
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How does the mind work? Is it contained entirely in the brain, or is there something more? Whichever it is, the "something more" is generally referred to as a soul. However, as something that is by definition intangible, there hasn't been much agreement on what it is that a soul actually ''does''. Is it essential for life, or can a person live on without it? What exactly does it give you, life, or wisdom, or will, or morality? Does it have weight? What happens if it's [[YourSoulIsMine stolen]] or [[DealWithTheDevil sold]]? Is it an {{Energy Being|s}}? [[IsItSomethingYouEat Does it taste like strawberries or chocolate]]?

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How does the mind work? Is it contained entirely in the brain, or is there something more? Whichever it is, the "something more" is generally referred to as a soul. However, as something that is by definition intangible, there hasn't been much agreement on what it is that a soul actually ''does''. Is it essential for life, or can a person live on without it? What exactly does it give you, you - life, or wisdom, or will, or morality? Does it have weight? What happens if it's [[YourSoulIsMine stolen]] or [[DealWithTheDevil sold]]? Is it an {{Energy Being|s}}? [[IsItSomethingYouEat Does it taste like strawberries or chocolate]]?



* Any of the above, with the additional addendum: [[GhostInTheMachine your consciousness goes wherever your soul is.]] (and whether that's a ghost or glowing ball of light is a whole different story.) Meanwhile your body/shell may show the previous symptoms.

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* Any of the above, with the additional addendum: [[GhostInTheMachine your consciousness goes wherever your soul is.]] is]] (and whether that's a ghost or glowing ball of light is a whole different story.) story). Meanwhile your body/shell may show the previous symptoms.



* Whether a soul can ''eat'' another one (common with various [[SoulEating soul eating]] demons and villains). Usually, this is done to gain more LifeEnergy or to gain a (very evil) powerup.

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* Whether a soul can ''eat'' another one (common with various [[SoulEating soul eating]] demons and villains). Usually, this is done to gain more LifeEnergy or to gain a (very evil) powerup.power-up.
13th May '17 12:06:25 PM nombretomado
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* One of the few coherent and understandable portions of ''LimboOfTheLost'' involves souls. Those who end up in Limbo receive their souls in a vial, and are responsible for keeping it safe. There's a legend, however, that someone who can claim seven souls by any means can escape Limbo, which causes a bit of havoc. Briggs is unusual as, being a living person thrown into Limbo by outside intervention, his soul is ''inside his body''.

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* One of the few coherent and understandable portions of ''LimboOfTheLost'' ''VideoGame/LimboOfTheLost'' involves souls. Those who end up in Limbo receive their souls in a vial, and are responsible for keeping it safe. There's a legend, however, that someone who can claim seven souls by any means can escape Limbo, which causes a bit of havoc. Briggs is unusual as, being a living person thrown into Limbo by outside intervention, his soul is ''inside his body''.
14th Apr '17 2:58:11 PM Gamemaniac92711
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* ''Fanfic/BloomingDreemurr'', being a fanwork of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', has this going. Particular attention is brought to it beyond Undertale due to the blog directly having characters preforming experiments to try and figure out any way to create an artificial soul for Flowey.
8th Apr '17 10:17:58 PM nombretomado
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* In Creator/CSLewis' ''TheScrewtapeLetters'', it is implied that the souls of those in Hell are devoured by demons, and this is in fact the fate of all the damned, including the demons themselves minus whoever's last. (Theologically, this can be seen as a parody/inversion of the Christian belief in Heaven as eternal communion with God, where the Devil's version of that communion is an eternal domination and violation of all lesser souls.)

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* In Creator/CSLewis' ''TheScrewtapeLetters'', ''Literature/TheScrewtapeLetters'', it is implied that the souls of those in Hell are devoured by demons, and this is in fact the fate of all the damned, including the demons themselves minus whoever's last. (Theologically, this can be seen as a parody/inversion of the Christian belief in Heaven as eternal communion with God, where the Devil's version of that communion is an eternal domination and violation of all lesser souls.)
4th Apr '17 8:14:32 PM nombretomado
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** ''{{Planescape}}'' elaborated on the afterlife and the fate of souls in 2nd Edition, some of which 3rd Edition retained. When a mortal dies their soul moves on to the Astral Plane where the mind is peeled off and left behind to form a "memory core" (which enterprising scavengers can then find and break into for knowledge), while the soul passes to an Outer Plane that matches their CharacterAlignment, or the home of their god(s). There they become petitioners, which are basically naked soul, and work to merge with their plane or god. Some petitioners are instead the least forms of demons, devils, angels, and other Outer Planar races and can ascend the ranks of these races instead of merging with the plane - or, more likely on the evil planes, become currency in the hands of demons and devils and spent to fuel their endless wars. Some non-mortal races, such as the aforementioned Outer Planar races and Elementals, have souls that are fundamentally different in that they are one unit with their bodies (whereas mortals have a dual nature).

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** ''{{Planescape}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' elaborated on the afterlife and the fate of souls in 2nd Edition, some of which 3rd Edition retained. When a mortal dies their soul moves on to the Astral Plane where the mind is peeled off and left behind to form a "memory core" (which enterprising scavengers can then find and break into for knowledge), while the soul passes to an Outer Plane that matches their CharacterAlignment, or the home of their god(s). There they become petitioners, which are basically naked soul, and work to merge with their plane or god. Some petitioners are instead the least forms of demons, devils, angels, and other Outer Planar races and can ascend the ranks of these races instead of merging with the plane - or, more likely on the evil planes, become currency in the hands of demons and devils and spent to fuel their endless wars. Some non-mortal races, such as the aforementioned Outer Planar races and Elementals, have souls that are fundamentally different in that they are one unit with their bodies (whereas mortals have a dual nature).
25th Mar '17 9:55:05 AM SpocktorWho
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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', it is possible to sell your soul, typically via the traditional Faustian DealWithTheDevil. In later seasons, it was revealed that [[spoiler:when Sam was pulled out of Lucifer's prison, his body was freed from the Pit, but not his soul. Without it, he lacked empathy and a conscience, and didn't need to sleep.]]

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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', it ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'':
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is possible to sell your soul, typically via the traditional Faustian DealWithTheDevil. In later seasons, Later in season six, it was revealed that [[spoiler:when Sam was pulled out of Lucifer's prison, his body was freed from the Pit, but not his soul. Without it, he lacked empathy and a conscience, and didn't need to sleep.]]
17th Mar '17 7:03:34 PM nombretomado
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* In the {{Nasuverse}}, souls are eternal, but require a physical body to tether them to the world. The soul is linked to the body, and when the body dies, it returns to [[TheLifestream Akasha]], to await reincarnation. Ordinarily when a soul is reincarnated, it retains no memories from any of it's previous lives, but there are ways around this, as seen with [[{{VisualNovel/Tsukihime}} Roa]]. If a person does manage to preserve their soul beyond the death of their original body, usually by [[GrandTheftMe transferring it directly into a new body]] or by [[OurVampiresAreDifferent becoming a vampire]], then the soul will decay. The Third True Magic, as explained in VisualNovel/FateStayNight, can overcome this problem. Also, [[spoiler:[[LightNovel/KaraNoKyoukai Aozaki Touko]] has a method of [[CloningGambit transferring her consciousness and soul into an identical artificial body]] with no apparent negative effects.]]

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* In the {{Nasuverse}}, {{Franchise/Nasuverse}}, souls are eternal, but require a physical body to tether them to the world. The soul is linked to the body, and when the body dies, it returns to [[TheLifestream Akasha]], to await reincarnation. Ordinarily when a soul is reincarnated, it retains no memories from any of it's previous lives, but there are ways around this, as seen with [[{{VisualNovel/Tsukihime}} Roa]]. If a person does manage to preserve their soul beyond the death of their original body, usually by [[GrandTheftMe transferring it directly into a new body]] or by [[OurVampiresAreDifferent becoming a vampire]], then the soul will decay. The Third True Magic, as explained in VisualNovel/FateStayNight, can overcome this problem. Also, [[spoiler:[[LightNovel/KaraNoKyoukai Aozaki Touko]] has a method of [[CloningGambit transferring her consciousness and soul into an identical artificial body]] with no apparent negative effects.]]



* In the {{Nasuverse}}, the soul is an indestructible "concept" that is tied down to the material world via the body. Souls of the dead are returned to "The Root" (that is, the origin of everything - past, present, and future) and recycled to create new souls.

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* In the {{Nasuverse}}, {{Franchise/Nasuverse}}, the soul is an indestructible "concept" that is tied down to the material world via the body. Souls of the dead are returned to "The Root" (that is, the origin of everything - past, present, and future) and recycled to create new souls.
23rd Feb '17 8:10:06 PM KarnOfTorren
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* ''VideoGame/FallenLondon'': Souls are a fairly easily tradable commodity, being one of the base level items a player can buy in the Bazaar. They're usually collected exclusively by spirifers using their spirifing forks and devils with their in born abilities, [[spoiler: but even groups like the Ratticus Fabers and Urchins manage to get their hands on souls, and its implied they don't exactly purchase them]] but they can be held and used as a resource by pretty much anyone. Losing your soul can have a variety of effects, sidebar text stating "In simpler times, Hell would take a soul on the death of the body. Death is more complicated in Fallen London, though not unknown. So it's not terribly uncommon to meet someone who's short a soul. Some of them become mumbling, dead-eyed husks: some of them simply turn to occupations where soullessness is a professional advantage".
23rd Feb '17 9:53:35 AM Prfnoff
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* Souls[[note]]or [=SOULs=], though this apparent acronym has no official expansion[[/note]] and the effects of lacking them play a huge role in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. Monsters and humans have souls, but a human soul is far stronger than a monster soul in power and the ability to linger after death whereas monster souls fade away nearly instantly after death and boss monster souls linger after death just for a brief moment. Monster have the ability to absorb human souls to gain more power and gaining seven or more human souls can make a monster almost godlike, which is what humans feared and was their motivation to go to war against the monsters according to the backstory. Part of the reason why human souls can exist after death is due to humans having "determination" which is an actual spiritual substance that allows humans to keep going against all odds. Monsters can't make determination naturally (or at least not a lot) since their bodies ''melt'' if they have too much of the stuff. Now what happens if a being has no soul? [[spoiler: Flowey is the result of someone who was once dead and brought back to life with an injection of determination. However, because Flowey lost his soul in his previous life, coming back to life without a soul rendered him unable to feel empathy no matter how hard he tried to feel and this would eventually drive him mad.]]

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* Souls[[note]]or Souls (or [=SOULs=], though this apparent acronym has as the game often calls them for no official expansion[[/note]] stated reason) and the effects of lacking them play a huge role in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. Monsters and humans have souls, but a human soul is far stronger than a monster soul in power and the ability to linger after death whereas monster souls fade away nearly instantly after death and boss monster souls linger after death just for a brief moment. Monster have the ability to absorb human souls to gain more power and gaining seven or more human souls can make a monster almost godlike, which is what humans feared and was their motivation to go to war against the monsters according to the backstory. Part of the reason why human souls can exist after death is due to humans having "determination" which is an actual spiritual substance that allows humans to keep going against all odds. Monsters can't make determination naturally (or at least not a lot) since their bodies ''melt'' if they have too much of the stuff. Now what happens if a being has no soul? [[spoiler: Flowey is the result of someone who was once dead and brought back to life with an injection of determination. However, because Flowey lost his soul in his previous life, coming back to life without a soul rendered him unable to feel empathy no matter how hard he tried to feel and this would eventually drive him mad.]]
23rd Feb '17 9:45:37 AM Prfnoff
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* Souls and the effects of lacking them play a huge role in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. Monsters and humans have souls, but a human soul is far stronger than a monster soul in power and the ability to linger after death whereas monster souls fade away nearly instantly after death and boss monster souls linger after death just for a brief moment. Monster have the ability to absorb human souls to gain more power and gaining seven or more human souls can make a monster almost godlike, which is what humans feared and was their motivation to go to war against the monsters according to the backstory. Part of the reason why human souls can exist after death is due to humans having "determination" which is an actual spiritual substance that allows humans to keep going against all odds. Monsters can't make determination naturally (or at least not a lot) since their bodies ''melt'' if they have too much of the stuff. Now what happens if a being has no soul? [[spoiler: Flowey is the result of someone who was once dead and brought back to life with an injection of determination. However, because Flowey lost his soul in his previous life, coming back to life without a soul rendered him unable to feel empathy no matter how hard he tried to feel and this would eventually drive him mad.]]

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* Souls Souls[[note]]or [=SOULs=], though this apparent acronym has no official expansion[[/note]] and the effects of lacking them play a huge role in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. Monsters and humans have souls, but a human soul is far stronger than a monster soul in power and the ability to linger after death whereas monster souls fade away nearly instantly after death and boss monster souls linger after death just for a brief moment. Monster have the ability to absorb human souls to gain more power and gaining seven or more human souls can make a monster almost godlike, which is what humans feared and was their motivation to go to war against the monsters according to the backstory. Part of the reason why human souls can exist after death is due to humans having "determination" which is an actual spiritual substance that allows humans to keep going against all odds. Monsters can't make determination naturally (or at least not a lot) since their bodies ''melt'' if they have too much of the stuff. Now what happens if a being has no soul? [[spoiler: Flowey is the result of someone who was once dead and brought back to life with an injection of determination. However, because Flowey lost his soul in his previous life, coming back to life without a soul rendered him unable to feel empathy no matter how hard he tried to feel and this would eventually drive him mad.]]
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