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7th Aug '16 6:55:51 PM nombretomado
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* In ''DeadLikeMe'', a soul is attached to a body, even after death, and can only be removed by a reaper who usually does so right before their death to spare them the pain. A person without a soul will continue to act as they are programmed to, typically walking right in to whatever death fate had in store for them.
** This show also includes an unusual case, where if a person's fated death is avoided, their soul is imprisoned in their body and unable to affect anything. According to Rube, this causes the soul to "rot."
** George also screws up and decides to skip one of her appointments. She later finds the soul was trapped inside the body since she wasn't there -- and had to [[AndIMustScream sit through its own autopsy, unable to do anything]].

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* In ''DeadLikeMe'', a ''Series/DeadLikeMe'':
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soul is attached to a body, even after death, and can only be removed by a reaper who usually does so right before their death to spare them the pain. A person without a soul will continue to act as they are programmed to, typically walking right in to whatever death fate had in store for them.
** This show also includes There's an unusual case, where if a person's fated death is avoided, their soul is imprisoned in their body and unable to affect anything. According to Rube, this causes the soul to "rot."
** George also screws up and decides to skip one of her appointments. She later finds the soul was trapped inside the body since she wasn't there -- and had to [[AndIMustScream sit through its own autopsy, unable to do anything]].
7th Aug '16 12:29:52 PM Nerrin
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* Souls are inextricably tied to magic in the ''Literature/{{Chalion}}'' series, as a living soul is literally the interface between the spiritual realm and the material. Even the gods, as wholly spiritual beings, are unable to perform miracles without a willing soul through which to channel their powers. All other forms of magic have something to do with souls as well, usually binding something else to a human's soul to make them a shaman or sorcerer.
5th Aug '16 1:56:48 AM PaulA
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* In JimButcher's ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', a soul, along with the body and spirit, is a component of a person, depending on the species. Humans have all three, Animals have body and possibly a spirit, Demons and Fae have body and spirit, Angels are all soul, and Ghosts and Spirits are, well, all spirit; and there are many other beings who have different configurations. The relationship between the soul and the spirit is complex and never fully explained, but on death of the body, most think that the soul would go on to an afterlife, and what happens to the spirit isn't entirely clear, but it appears to either disperse or carry on as a ghost if there's "unfinished business." A ghost is widely accepted to be a discreet and separate entity from the person that they were, even though they have the name, memories, and personality of the person that they were/came from.//
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* In JimButcher's ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', a soul, along with the body and spirit, is a component of a person, depending on the species. Humans have all three, Animals have body and possibly a spirit, Demons and Fae have body and spirit, Angels are all soul, and Ghosts and Spirits are, well, all spirit; and there are many other beings who have different configurations. The relationship between the soul and the spirit is complex and never fully explained, but on death of the body, most think that the soul would go on to an afterlife, and what happens to the spirit isn't entirely clear, but it appears to either disperse or carry on as a ghost if there's "unfinished business." A ghost is widely accepted to be a discreet and separate entity from the person that they were, even though they have the name, memories, and personality of the person that they were/came from.//
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22nd Jul '16 6:39:48 PM ImpudentInfidel
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*** There have also been several hints that they were guided and/or genetically modified to develop this trait. ''Somebody'' dropped their ruling class on them and saved from extinction, for this exact reason according to some sources, but their identity and purpose remains murky.
22nd Jul '16 1:12:50 AM PaulA
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* WayneBarlowe book series that takes place in Hell has a rather terrifying prospect for all human souls who go there. Apparently, the underworld ''does'' have a food chain, but humans are at the bottom of it. And that's not counting the fact that humans are the ''main building materials'' for demons, their livestock, vehicles, and war machines all made out of souls.
* In ''{{Warbreaker}}'', everyone has a single Breath, which is the equivalent of the soul, but can be transferred willingly to others and used to animate objects. Those who lose their Breath can function normally, but they and their clothes appear drained of color, their immune systems suddenly lose much of their efficacy, and they become more prone to depression and mood swings.

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* WayneBarlowe Creator/WayneBarlowe book series that takes place in Hell has a rather terrifying prospect for all human souls who go there. Apparently, the underworld ''does'' have a food chain, but humans are at the bottom of it. And that's not counting the fact that humans are the ''main building materials'' for demons, their livestock, vehicles, and war machines all made out of souls.
* In ''{{Warbreaker}}'', ''Literature/{{Warbreaker}}'', everyone has a single Breath, which is the equivalent of the soul, but can be transferred willingly to others and used to animate objects. Those who lose their Breath can function normally, but they and their clothes appear drained of color, their immune systems suddenly lose much of their efficacy, and they become more prone to depression and mood swings.



* Michael Swanick wrote a short story in which dead souls fall up to the heavens to be absorbed into creation. However, power lines and cold iron would stop this (if for example you died in a building with reinforced concrete ceilings) so ghosts could avoid that undiscovered country and stay themselves while they navigated an upside down otherwise intangible world constantly holding on to iron or powerlines. There was also a soul eating monster.

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* Michael Swanick Creator/MichaelSwanwick wrote a short story in which dead souls fall up to the heavens to be absorbed into creation. However, power lines and cold iron would stop this (if for example you died in a building with reinforced concrete ceilings) so ghosts could avoid that undiscovered country and stay themselves while they navigated an upside down otherwise intangible world constantly holding on to iron or powerlines. There was also a soul eating monster.
13th Jul '16 5:52:01 PM IamTheCaligula
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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': All beings have a separate heart and soul. If the heart separates from the body it becomes one of TheHeartless, while the body and soul either die or become [[BetaTestBaddie Nobodies]]. You read that right, "TheHeartless" are in fact ''made from hearts'' (or at least the Emblem ones) and the Nobodies are actually "heartless". Here, the heart contains all your emotions and memories, while the soul is merely the spark that animates the body. Later games in the series elaborate on the nature of the heart. [[spoiler: Anyone has the potential to have a heart, as long as they have friends. This includes Nobodies, the heart will naturally recover, given the chance.]]
** And events in ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep Birth By Sleep]]'' seem to indicate that their is a third element to the a person's soul [[spoiler: when after Terra gets both his mind ''and'' heart [[GrandTheftMe taken over]] by Xehanort, his HeroicSpirit possesses his discarded armor to continue the fight. It should also be noted that despite Xehanort possessing both his heart and mind, Terra's HeroicSpirit imbued armor (which seems to lack even cognition) ''still'' beat him down. And ten years later, he/it is considered to be the ThatOneBoss out of the entire series]].

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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': All beings have a separate heart and soul. If the heart separates from the body it becomes one of TheHeartless, while the body and soul either die or become [[BetaTestBaddie Nobodies]]. You read that right, "TheHeartless" are in fact ''made from lost hearts'' (or at least the Emblem ones) ones are) and the Nobodies are actually "heartless". "heartless" bodies. Here, the heart contains all your intentions, emotions and memories, the connections you've made with other people, while the soul is merely will, logic, intelligence and the spark that animates the body. Later games in the series elaborate on the nature of the heart. [[spoiler: Anyone has the potential to have a heart, as long as they have friends. This includes Nobodies, the heart will naturally recover, given the chance.]]
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** And events in ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep Birth By Sleep]]'' seem to indicate that their there is a third element to the a person's soul [[spoiler: when after Terra gets both his mind ''and'' heart [[GrandTheftMe taken over]] by Xehanort, his HeroicSpirit possesses his discarded armor to continue the fight. It should also be noted that despite Xehanort possessing both his heart and mind, Terra's HeroicSpirit imbued armor (which seems to lack even cognition) ''still'' beat him down. And ten years later, he/it is considered to be the ThatOneBoss out of the entire series]].



* Souls and the effects of lacking them play a huge role in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. Monsters and humans have souls, but a human soul is far stronger than a monster soul in power and the ability to linger after death whereas monster souls fade away nearly instantly after death and boss monster souls linger after death just for a brief moment. Monster have the ability to absorb human souls to gain more power and gaining seven or more human souls can make a monster almost godlike, which is what humans feared and was their motivation to go to war against the monsters according to the backstory. Part of the reason why human souls can exist after death is due to humans having "determination" which is an actual bodily substance that allows humans to keep going against all odds. Monsters can't make determination naturally (or at least not a lot) since their bodies ''melt'' if they have too much of the stuff. Now what happens if a being has no soul? [[spoiler: Flowey is the result of someone who was once dead and brought back to life with an injection of determination. However, because Flowey lost his soul in his previous life, coming back to life without a soul rendered him unable to feel empathy no matter how hard he tried to feel and this would eventually drive him mad.]]

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* Souls and the effects of lacking them play a huge role in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. Monsters and humans have souls, but a human soul is far stronger than a monster soul in power and the ability to linger after death whereas monster souls fade away nearly instantly after death and boss monster souls linger after death just for a brief moment. Monster have the ability to absorb human souls to gain more power and gaining seven or more human souls can make a monster almost godlike, which is what humans feared and was their motivation to go to war against the monsters according to the backstory. Part of the reason why human souls can exist after death is due to humans having "determination" which is an actual bodily spiritual substance that allows humans to keep going against all odds. Monsters can't make determination naturally (or at least not a lot) since their bodies ''melt'' if they have too much of the stuff. Now what happens if a being has no soul? [[spoiler: Flowey is the result of someone who was once dead and brought back to life with an injection of determination. However, because Flowey lost his soul in his previous life, coming back to life without a soul rendered him unable to feel empathy no matter how hard he tried to feel and this would eventually drive him mad.]]
9th Jul '16 9:36:09 PM Yozzy
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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': Losing your soul robs you of all willpower and memory; you simply "exist" as an empty shell, conscious but unable to make choices or act, while [[SoulJar breaking it apart makes you less human]] (and immortal). It appears that the mind is a semi-separate entity that remains with the largest piece of a split soul.
** In addition, [[spoiler:ripping it apart and dying with your soul not in one piece will condemn you to eternity in agony, as the act is a "horribly crime against nature"]]. [[MrExposition Hermione]] implies that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone repentance]] can potentially put a torn soul back together, but it hurts a lot.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': Losing your soul robs you of all willpower and memory; memory, you simply "exist" as an empty shell, EmptyShell, conscious but unable to make choices think or act, act; while [[SoulJar breaking it acts such as murder breaks the soul apart makes you less human]] (and immortal).human ([[[[SoulJar and immortal, if you know how to work it the right way]]). It appears that the mind is a semi-separate entity that remains with the largest piece of a split soul.
** In addition, [[spoiler:ripping it apart and dying with your soul not in one piece will condemn you to eternity in agony, as the act is a "horribly "horrible crime against nature"]]. [[MrExposition Hermione]] implies that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone repentance]] can potentially put a torn soul back together, but it hurts a lot.



* In JimButcher's ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', Bob describes "the soul" as equivalent to "life force" or "chi": "the part of you that is more than merely physical." He also notes (to Harry's dismay) that you can lose a significant chunk of it and still remain "you," since it grows back in about a week. In ''Small Favor'', [[spoiler:Harry uses "soulfire": magic strengthened with soul energy in much the same way that concrete is strengthened with rebar. Archangels use soulfire, but they have one hell...uh...heck of a lot more soul to work with.]]
** Using it does, however, [[spoiler:damage the soul (Bob complains that humans get too upset over phrases like that, though too much damage could be fatal). The damaged soul will regenerate naturally over a week or so -- faster if the person in question spends time doing something uplifting]].
** Also, only Humans have Souls for sure; Wizards can Soulgaze other Humans, but not any other creatures (Fae, Angels, etc.), implying they either do not have a Soul, or it is so different than a Human's Soul that the 'Gaze doesn't work.
*** White Court Vampires can also be Soulgazed, being born from a Human and a Vampire.

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* In JimButcher's ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', Bob a soul, along with the body and spirit, is a component of a person, depending on the species. Humans have all three, Animals have body and possibly a spirit, Demons and Fae have body and spirit, Angels are all soul, and Ghosts and Spirits are, well, all spirit; and there are many other beings who have different configurations. The relationship between the soul and the spirit is complex and never fully explained, but on death of the body, most think that the soul would go on to an afterlife, and what happens to the spirit isn't entirely clear, but it appears to either disperse or carry on as a ghost if there's "unfinished business." A ghost is widely accepted to be a discreet and separate entity from the person that they were, even though they have the name, memories, and personality of the person that they were/came from.//
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Although its existence is taken for granted, the soul remains far more mysterious than the spirit, and it appears to be even more noncorporeal and metaphysical. Even Harry, Chicago's resident wizard, isn't entirely certain that the soul exists as, and continues on as, most religions describe. [[SpiritAdvisor Bob]]
describes "the soul" as equivalent to "life force" or "chi": "the part of you that is more than merely physical." He also notes (to Harry's dismay) that you can lose a significant chunk of it it. Bob isn't worried about it, as lovers exchange parts of their souls regularly and you still remain "you," since it grows "you" when you simply lose a part (small sections can grow back in about a week. week, and the process can be accelerated by "lifting one's spirit," perhaps almost literally in this case). In ''Small Favor'', [[spoiler:Harry uses gains "soulfire": magic strengthened with soul energy in much the same way that concrete is strengthened with rebar. Archangels use soulfire, but they have one hell...uh...heck of a lot more soul to work with.]]
** Using it does, however, [[spoiler:damage the soul by using it up a little at a time. (Bob complains that humans get too upset over phrases like that, though he acknowledges using Soulfire too much damage could be fatal). The damaged fatal, up to leaving no soul behind)]]. Mild damage to a soul will regenerate naturally over a week or so -- faster if the person in question spends time doing something uplifting]].
** Also, only Humans have Souls for sure; Wizards can Soulgaze other Humans, but not any other creatures (Fae, Angels, etc.), implying they either do not have a Soul, or it is so different than a Human's Soul that the 'Gaze doesn't work.
*** White Court Vampires can also be Soulgazed, being born from a Human and a Vampire.
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30th Jun '16 1:48:15 PM StFan
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* In ''ArsMagica'' the "Limit of the Soul" is one of the Limits of Magic and prevents wizards from affecting human souls with their magic. This means it is impossible for most magicians to perform resurrections, or create living people via their magics.

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* In ''ArsMagica'' ''TabletopGame/ArsMagica'' the "Limit of the Soul" is one of the Limits of Magic and prevents wizards from affecting human souls with their magic. This means it is impossible for most magicians to perform resurrections, or create living people via their magics.
24th Jun '16 1:11:39 PM StFan
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* In ''Comicbook/{{X-Factor}}'', Layla Miller's ''true'' power is revealed as the ability to resurrect dead people, albeit without souls. Trevor Fitzroy's role as a longstanding Bishop villain is thus explaining as Layla [[CameBackWrong restoring the once good Trevor, but without a soul]].

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* In ''Comicbook/{{X-Factor}}'', ''ComicBook/XFactor'', Layla Miller's ''true'' power is revealed as the ability to resurrect dead people, albeit without souls. Trevor Fitzroy's role as a longstanding Bishop villain is thus explaining as Layla [[CameBackWrong restoring the once good Trevor, but without a soul]].



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* In Literature/TheTygrineCat, a cat's spirit/consciousness is called the second self and can exit the body to traverse [[SpiritWorld Fiåney]]. It is possible for the second self to get lost and for the body to eventually die, trapping the second self in Fiåney permanently.
* In ''[[{{Literature/MGP}} Magical Girl Policy]]'', the Spirit Guard are revealed to be reincarnations of ancient warriors from another civilization, and their souls carry "investiture" from their past lives.

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* In Literature/TheTygrineCat, ''Literature/TheTygrineCat'', a cat's spirit/consciousness is called the second self and can exit the body to traverse [[SpiritWorld Fiåney]]. It is possible for the second self to get lost and for the body to eventually die, trapping the second self in Fiåney permanently.
* In ''[[{{Literature/MGP}} Magical Girl Policy]]'', the Spirit Guard are revealed to be reincarnations of ancient warriors from another civilization, and their souls carry "investiture" from their past lives.
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* Roleplay/ShadowhunterPeril focuses on souls quite a bit. There exists a creature called an Ushubaen, which boils down to a human imbibed with demonic energy. Normally this would kill the human, but if the human is also imbibed with enough souls to counteract the corrosive demonic energy, then they become a perfect mix of the two (in contrast to faeries, which are half angel half demon, but aren't perfect mixtures). Unfortunately, because they have multiple souls in them, and demonic energy taints the mind as well as bestowing powers, all Ushubaen are insane, genocidal monsters who want to destroy everything they can. They can even kill [[BigGood angels]].

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* Roleplay/ShadowhunterPeril Roleplay/ShadowhunterPeril'' focuses on souls quite a bit. There exists a creature called an Ushubaen, which boils down to a human imbibed with demonic energy. Normally this would kill the human, but if the human is also imbibed with enough souls to counteract the corrosive demonic energy, then they become a perfect mix of the two (in contrast to faeries, which are half angel half demon, but aren't perfect mixtures). Unfortunately, because they have multiple souls in them, and demonic energy taints the mind as well as bestowing powers, all Ushubaen are insane, genocidal monsters who want to destroy everything they can. They can even kill [[BigGood angels]].



* In ''Literature/MagicalGirlPolicy'', the Spirit Guard are revealed to be reincarnations of ancient warriors from another civilization, and their souls carry "investiture" from their past lives.



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23rd Jun '16 6:37:00 PM Xavon
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** Also, only Humans have Souls for sure; Wizards can Soulgaze other Humans, but not any other creatures (Fae, Angels, etc.), implying they either do not have a Soul, or it is so different than a Human's Soul that the 'Gaze doesn't work.
*** White Court Vampires can also be Soulgazed, being born from a Human and a Vampire.
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