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VanHohenheimOfXerxes Since: Jan, 2012
Jul 29th 2019 at 9:41:59 AM •••

Would some of the Victorian references in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass count?

On one hand, the Victorian era wasn't exactly a narrow time frame. It'd already been going on for a few decades by the time the Alice books got published, and even more time has passed since then. It's less jarring that people nowadays have forgotten what exactly Lewis Carroll was referencing over a century and a half ago, than that people nowadays have forgotten what Seltzer and Friedberg were referencing a decade ago.

On the other hand, yeah, modern audiences are unlikely to know a lot of the bits that Carroll parodied — hence a lot of annotated editions of the books. That definitely falls under the Weird Al Effect, but does it fall under this trope too?

RossN Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 5th 2017 at 3:41:16 PM •••

"The later films in the Scary Movie series ended up like this. Originally, they worked, as most Horror Tropes were codified in The '80s or earlier, so anyone with even a passing familiarity with the horror genre will get the jokes. However, later gags became a lot more obvious and telegraphed while the pool of references narrowed from broader subgenres of horror (slashers in the first, Haunted House/ghost movies in the second) to specific, recent movies (some of which weren't even horror). The first big complaint from fans was the inclusion in the third film of an extended parody of 8 Mile, which had nothing to do with horror movies."

This seems like a serious case of Franchise Original Sin. The first Scary Movie drew overwhelmingly from from Scream and Scream 2 with a few elements drawn from Film/I Know What You Did Last Summer and The Blair Witch Project, all films released a maximum of four years earlier than Scary Movie. It also ran an extended parody on The Usual Suspects which definitely wasn't a horror film (and again came from a film released only five years earlier.)

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