Main Manipulative Bastard Discussion

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Slaugth324
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01:46:11 PM Jun 26th 2017
what i mean is doesn't a manipulative bastard use plans to further his agenda or not because it would seem so from the description but almost none of the example have manipulative bastards/bitches using plans they just have them talking to people
Slaugth324
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01:12:35 PM Jun 26th 2017
sorry i'm new, I have been following tv tropes for a long time and i thought the manipulative person had plans like the chess master but was "more personal and controlling in their manipulations" in essence they use plans gambits plots and other forms of scheming and planning to manipulate people by playing on a variety of things including but not limited to, desires perspectives emotions insecurities etc

DaibhidC
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06:01:56 AM Jan 20th 2014
Pulled this from the El Goonish Shive example of Nanase's mother:

Looks like Conversation in the Main Page. (And since we're on the discussion page surely the point isn't that she's not "a hapless hysterical wreck" - in which case everyone in EGS would be a maniupulative bastard - it's that she's lying to her daughter, in a way that makes her daughter feel bad, for reasons unknown. I'm actually not certain she qualifies myself, but the above sarcasm overstates the idea she doesn't.)
longWriter
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07:12:14 AM May 25th 2013
I could use some help figuring out whether a villain I created fits the bill of Manipulative Bastard. You see, he's good at manipulating the emotions of the heroes and also good at getting them to do what he wants them to do, but he doesn't mix the two—-manipulating emotions is, to him, an end in itself, and he uses things like false radar signals to get them to go where he wants them to go.
NNinja
04:49:01 AM Jan 14th 2017
seems fitting.
gibberingtroper
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04:51:27 AM Sep 27th 2011
Whoever wrote this caption for the Tower of Babel cover currently on the front page, got a good laugh out of me. Thank you.

"The other heroes always get annoyed when Batman breaks out the puppets to explain his plan."
RicaCriscia
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03:50:33 AM Apr 30th 2011
Would passive-aggressive behavior be an example of this?
ClassyMyths
09:41:53 PM Dec 22nd 2011
Only if their passive-aggressiveness pushes them to manipulate the people around them.
ClassyMyths
09:41:53 PM Dec 22nd 2011
Only if their passive-aggressiveness pushes them to manipulate the people around them.
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