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Thing about one of the video examples: We've got Loki being killed by Thanos, but now there's an alternate timeline Loki who's alive, so it doesn't really count, but on the other hand the video makes it look like it counts. Should we use the video?
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That's the thing about this trope; in an ongoing work where character death is reversible, the most you can ever say is that it hasn't been reversed yet.
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Question - I understand the reasoning behind the "No Real Life Examples Please" mark for this trope, but what about for things which aren't people? I'm not talking something sudden like the World Trade Center, but rather something whose demolition was brought up and dismissed as Like You Would Really Do It until it did like the old Pennsylvania Station which was demolished and where the current Madison Square Garden stands today.
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It's not there any more and all the art deco and architecture is lost save for photos. Or would this fit somewhere else better?
Things that aren't people are not this trope. Stuff being destroyed is not usually of storytelling importance.
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I don't think the Buffy examples belong here. As stated, this show is for universes where death is easily reversible (there should be many instances of resurrection). In Buffy, most of the characters that die stay dead.
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That sounds fishy, yeah. I'll ask here.
There's enough main character resurrection that I think it applies. Buffy dies... three times? Angel twice? Darla twice. Spike comes back. Wishverse Willow dies in her first appearance but comes back. According to the comics, Warren comes back.
Not to mention dream sequences and alternate universes.
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Can KOFR and Character Death apply in the same universe? Example: Bob is a mortal and gets ran over by a car, clearly a case of the latter. Charlie is a demigod and gets run through with a magical spear that removes his immortality.
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I think this trope is overused in character descriptions, especially when it comes to minor characters.
Should this trope be reserved only for "for real" deaths that occur under the expectations of a Disney Death or some form of Reset Button? It seems the spirit of the trope is more narrow than just any normal death.
I find it incredibly odd that Heavy Rain is not mentioned amongst the Video Game titles, despite the fact that any of the main characters can (and probably) die within the course of the story. However, I'll not spoil it for you myself. Just have a look at it, if you don't mind.
I just want to check if everyone is cool with Aerith being the trope picture. I know finding a picture for this trope is tricky because of the potential spoilers, so the Aerith picture seemed like it's a no brainer since it's literally a Late Arrival Spoiler.
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it is fine. it is one of those things that EVERYONE has already spoiled sooooo much that it is common knowledge. there isn't really anything more iconic or memorable than that.
Where do we stand on characters who are Killed Off for Real in a particular work, then revived years or decades later in a sequel set in the same continuity, not necessarily by the same creators?
Where there's a works page for the first instalment, we probably don't want to talk about sequel events there.
So do we say Killed Off for Real on the original works page because they stay dead for the duration (in a setting where others don't) and then cover it on the sequel page?