Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Making this page useful.
, started by MatthewTheRaven on Mar 22nd 2011 at 9:57:15 AM
They were horrible, whiny, vague, poorly defined, and the majority of them had a self-serving implication of "everyone who dislikes something I like is in an organized, irrational mob of dedicated trolls." And it isn't really even a trope.
I agree with artman40, unlock this page. Doesn't deserved this. Who unlocked it in the first place? >:(
I agree with Matthew. The term defines Flame Bait. Any show that goes on sufficiently long enough has a hatedom, and it would just invite fan wars.
Hatedoms are no worse than hardcore fanbases. Both sides are psychotically obsessed with the same subject for different reasons.
There's a big difference between having a Hatedom and just being generally disliked by everyone except the fans. A lot of thee entries are more like people trying to justify their love for things that...aren't good.
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Oh great, more bad entries. I think no examples for this might be best.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Why is this a YMMV trope? Hatedoms aren't exactly subjective.
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I don't understand this. It's hilarious, the sheer shock value put be back on my heels. And I don't mean the page, I mean the entry for Family Guy, it ends with [citation needed]. But this is TV tropes! Okay, I'm laughing, but it's because my brain is in knots. I know you're not supposed to explain the joke, but this has to be a joke. Can someone please explain it, carefully as if I'm stupid, to me?
Thanks
A lot of the examples on this page are bad. According to Dragon Quest Z there's a forum discussing this, but I couldn't find it so I'm just going to post here. The examples should actually describe the hatedom, like the Howard Stern example. It tells you about the hatedom itself without feeling the need to offer commentary on Howard Stern himself. Most of the examples (okay, maybe not "most" but quite a few)are just people who want to complain about something, though, like "Lady Gaga has a hatedom because..." or they act as if the existence of a hatedom makes all criticism invalid (see the Nickelback example). Basically I think the examples should describe the hatedom itself, who its made up of, what they've done, etc. Once you start talking about why there's a hatedom its just complaining about shows you don't like and bashing the hatedom is just complaining about people not liking the show.
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Perhaps we should actually follow the description and make the trope about well-organized anti-fandoms instead of just a work or artist being wildly hated. For example, Anti-Shurtigal or whatever it was called was a well-organized and prominent anti-fandom of Eragon, and I'm sure Twilight has something similar. Those would be hatedoms. If people commonly bash Nickelback but don't have websites and blogs dedicated to dissecting their lyrics, parodying them, and such, they don't have a hatedom, just people that hate them. Citing such sites would make this page more useful and much smaller.
Anyone want to start a topic in trope repair shop?
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Moved the picture because I couldn't figure out how to put the caption under it where it was.
Enigmatic title!
I don't like this page. Just behind every sentence lurks the implication that anyone who likes to hate something is some sort of Nazi Supervillain. From Captain Planet.
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There is a thread on the forums discussing what to do with the examples.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
I wonder, is there something to be said about the hatedom that a Hate Sink (read:intentional) gets? Probably negative audience reactions to a character made to be one?
I got my political views from reddit and that's bad