Main Harsherin Hindsight Discussion

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02:10:27 PM Aug 3rd 2017
From YMMV.The Legend Of Zelda Breath Of The Wild:
  • The Great Plateau is a rather lonely place to begin with, with the Old Man and a few Koroks being the only friendly NPCs around, but it gets even lonelier when the former turns out to be Dead All Along.
Does it count if it takes place within the media (because that sounds like a Intended Audience Reaction), or does it only apply for stories/events that take place after it?
04:32:52 PM Aug 3rd 2017
The thing is, there's no "intended Harsher in Hindsight" trope, which I think is an oversight on our part.
03:11:11 PM Jul 31st 2017
Ok I have an example but I can't find any information on it

The example:

In Rotten Ralph the episode's plot Super duper blooper show, where Ralph sets up pranks on his family & secretly videotapes it so he could appear on AFV expy show much to the shock horror & embarrassment of the family, becomes a few years later when afv was hit with a lawsuit over a clip in a bob saget era rerun that was sent in the person's neighbors where the secretly recorded him doing something embarrassing

Now I heard of the lawsuit a few years ago (it was filed I believe somewhere between 2003-2007), but I'm having trouble trying to find it now
03:18:16 PM Jul 31st 2017
It probably still counts now considering cyber bullying, I swear that lawsuit exists
04:04:23 PM Nov 14th 2015
I think we should add subsections for specific real-life tragedies and controversies (9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, Katrina/Sandy, Bill Cosby, etc.)
01:57:48 AM Jun 23rd 2014
Removed the page image and caption for all sorts of reasons. The caption failed to illuminate what it was captioning- a link does not count. After the 2011 quake, Tokyo was fine and Tokyo Tower was fine- the metro area as a whole suffered few if any casualties or building collapses, so the image has nothing to do with the allegedly related event. It's like throwing up an image of the Sears/Willis tower collapsing in a Sharknado connected with 2011 Joplin tornado. The very concept of including natural disasters for the trope is rather odd, since natural disasters are a certainty mitigated only by our preparations and reactions.
02:21:51 AM Jun 3rd 2014
Should natural disasters fall under this trope at all? Natural disasters are just that, natural, and if you are going to have a disaster in a given work based off a real place your likely to use one of the natural disasters that are more likely to occur there.

Example : In ''Infinity Gauntlet'', Japan sinking into the ocean feels a bit tactless after the 2011 tsunami.

Japan has a history of tsunamis and I do not see how a comic from 1991 is tactless 20 years and two other tsunamis latter (one in 1993 and one in 2007).

01:58:53 AM Jun 23rd 2014
Seems logical to me. I think this trope is due for a cleanup.
01:53:46 AM Jan 10th 2014
These quotes don't illustrate the trope or its definition, and leaves the impression that any situational irony could be inserted as examples, whether or not there was ever any harshness in the original presentation.
05:06:25 AM Mar 6th 2013
Is there an In-Universe version of this? Like, a throwaway comment takes on a new and chilling implication given later events?
10:02:32 PM May 3rd 2012
Have the Powers That Be considered if, like Nightmare Fuel, this and Funny Aneurysm Moment are getting to where they should probably just get their own namespace on works pages and no longer have an example page under the definition?
09:26:47 PM Feb 13th 2012
Why is this listed under YMMV on works' pages? It doesn't seem that subjective.
02:05:13 PM Aug 3rd 2017
It's an Audience Reaction, and what one considers harsh may very from person to person.
09:07:34 AM Apr 30th 2011
Do you think it would be worth it to split this trope up (either internally or into two separate tropes) into things that became harsher in hindsight within the universe of the story (the original "funny aneurysm moment") vs. things that became harsher in hindsight due to external events (all the subsequent actor deaths or the September 11th examples)? Also, I feel like "Accidental Elegy" could be a subtrope in and of itself with a couple more examples.
03:26:56 PM Nov 3rd 2011
Yes. I think it makes a big difference whether the events are inside or outside the story world.
04:05:14 PM Oct 12th 2010
101 Dalmatians: The Series, which released in 1997, had an episode "Alive N Chicken" where Spot the chicken tries various methods to fly. The episode was banned because of the 9/11 attacks, especially the part when Spot flew into the Dog Chow Tower.

I seriously doubt it was banned. It was probably withdrawn by the networks themselves; arbitrary government censorship without clear rules is frowned upon in this country.
07:42:01 PM Oct 2nd 2010
This article needs trimming there was a plane on screen as the same time as the Twin Towers is NOT an instance of this trope.
11:13:49 AM Sep 12th 2012
edited by SickBoy
Agreed. People also keep posting instances where someone or something is simply referenced, and then later the person died/the thing had something bad happen to it. An actor appearing in a show and later dying, the WTC being visible in the scenery of a show, people talking about hurricanes, none of these are examples.
07:46:09 PM Sep 12th 2010
Regarding "Mary": I remember reading somewhere that Mary was HIV+, which was the inspiration for the song. She might have actually died of an aneurysm, but aneurysms don't last two years before bursting, and no sane doctor would let it sit two years.
01:00:30 AM Jun 30th 2010
Would Detective Conan/Case Closed movie 5 "Countdown to Heaven" count? It was released in Japan in April 2001 and featured the bombing and collapse of a pair of connected skyscrapers, from which the characters have to escape—primarily by rushing down the stairs. And the fire hoses aren't much help in putting out the fire because it's too high up.
09:06:28 AM Jun 27th 2010
exactly how is this differant from Funny Aneurysm Moment ?
06:18:57 AM Jul 11th 2010
I think it wasn't even supposed to be funny the first time.
08:57:29 AM Apr 3rd 2010
How about a separate subsection for 9/11, since it's the most popular point of reference? Just an idea.
08:52:12 AM May 27th 2010
Maybe something like the set up TooSoon? The problem I was having setting up something like that is that there are tangentially related examples like references to suicide bombers. I'm not sure how to handle it.
05:29:33 AM Nov 27th 2011
I would think of creating a new trope for 9/11-related examples (culled from this, Too Soon, etc.); meaning all examples where 9/11 was shown to be destroyed/bombed/etc. in pre-2001 media.
08:47:48 AM Mar 30th 2012
I think a subsection for 9/11, rather than its own trope, would be best - those examples still fall under this trope, but they do flood the main page as it is.
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