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06:52:16 AM Mar 19th 2018
So. The current inage is from Othello—as it should be; Oth. is where the phrase originates and it's entire plot is driven by this—but the image makes it look like Iago is the one jealous of Desdemona and Othello, when the plot actually revolves around Othello's misplaced jealousy of Cassio.

I'm all for the particular argument this reinforces, but just sayin'.
11:18:39 AM Apr 30th 2012
Is Mello from Death Note in this page? I only skimmed it, so I may have missed him, but if he isn't on here, is that because one really can't get into what makes him this trope because it would be a spoilerific landmine? Since he only gets introduced after L's death, and his whole jealousy is over Near outdoing him all the time and wanting to be L's successor rather than Near, which is pretty much what's motivating him the whole time
11:14:39 AM Apr 30th 2012
Fridge Brilliance: Envy's association with green probably has nothing to do with this, (or maybe it does), but there's the saying "The grass is always greener on the other side", and maybe Shakespeare had dubbed the "Green-Eyed Monster" from this phrase. Unless said phrase came only after his time...
06:47:46 AM Mar 19th 2018
Shakespeare's use of "green-eyed monster" in Othello was the Trope Maker for Envy's association with green. I think "the grass is always greener" has more to do with dissatisfaction than envy specifically, but it's an interesting connection.
03:12:20 PM Dec 5th 2011
I'd just like to change the picture. Does it have to involve beauty, let alone breasts?
07:46:23 PM Jan 10th 2012
edited by rodneyAnonymous
It's also not clearly a jealous look. I always read her expression as saying "How crude." Disapproval, not envy.
11:53:21 AM Oct 1st 2011
I saw a pic from a Pluto cartoon, where he saves a kitty from falling into a frozen pond, where Pluto is seen shooting a furious green-eyed glare that might be better.
01:18:32 PM Jan 27th 2011
It mixes envy with jealousy.

Envy = desire for sth others have but you don't Jealousy = fear of loss of sth you already have

ie. take a couple and a "third wheel", other guy interested in a girl:

boyfriend may be jealous of the other guy (afraid to lose her), but other guy is envious (wishes he had the girl).
07:24:11 PM Feb 18th 2011
What? From what I understand, 'jealousy' is about wanting something (or someone) that someone else has, but envy simply means either hating someone's good fortune or taking pleasure in their misery.
10:39:20 AM Jan 25th 2011
The title can be misleading; I thought it was about some brainwashing trope, not envy. Can we change the title?
03:10:19 PM Jan 29th 2012
I wouldn't. The Green Eyed Monster has been used to refer to Jealousy/Envy for centuries and most people know that. The titles just fine.
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