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TheGreatConversation daughter of bilitis Since: Apr, 2017
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Mar 19th 2018 at 6:52:16 AM •••

So. The current inage is from Othello—as it should be; Oth. is where the phrase originates and it's entire plot is driven by this—but the image makes it look like Iago is the one jealous of Desdemona and Othello, when the plot actually revolves around Othello's misplaced jealousy of Cassio.

I'm all for the particular argument this reinforces, but just sayin'.

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Stoogebie Since: Apr, 2011
Apr 30th 2012 at 11:14:39 AM •••

Fridge Brilliance: Envy's association with green probably has nothing to do with this, (or maybe it does), but there's the saying "The grass is always greener on the other side", and maybe Shakespeare had dubbed the "Green-Eyed Monster" from this phrase. Unless said phrase came only after his time...

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TheGreatConversation Since: Apr, 2017
Mar 19th 2018 at 6:47:46 AM •••

Shakespeare's use of "green-eyed monster" in Othello was the Trope Maker for Envy's association with green. I think "the grass is always greener" has more to do with dissatisfaction than envy specifically, but it's an interesting connection.

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Stoogebie Since: Apr, 2011
Apr 30th 2012 at 11:18:39 AM •••

Is Mello from Death Note in this page? I only skimmed it, so I may have missed him, but if he isn't on here, is that because one really can't get into what makes him this trope because it would be a spoilerific landmine? Since he only gets introduced after L's death, and his whole jealousy is over Near outdoing him all the time and wanting to be L's successor rather than Near, which is pretty much what's motivating him the whole time

Sledgehammer Since: Jun, 2012
Jan 25th 2011 at 10:39:20 AM •••

The title can be misleading; I thought it was about some brainwashing trope, not envy. Can we change the title?

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ClassyMyths Since: Oct, 2011
Jan 29th 2012 at 3:10:19 PM •••

I wouldn't. The Green Eyed Monster has been used to refer to Jealousy/Envy for centuries and most people know that. The titles just fine.

bluerazz Since: Aug, 2011
Dec 5th 2011 at 3:12:20 PM •••

I'd just like to change the picture. Does it have to involve beauty, let alone breasts?

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rodneyAnonymous Since: Aug, 2010
Jan 10th 2012 at 7:46:23 PM •••

It's also not clearly a jealous look. I always read her expression as saying "How crude." Disapproval, not envy.

Edited by rodneyAnonymous Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
azul120 Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 1st 2011 at 11:53:21 AM •••

I saw a pic from a Pluto cartoon, where he saves a kitty from falling into a frozen pond, where Pluto is seen shooting a furious green-eyed glare that might be better.

77.254.200.62 Since: Dec, 1969
Jan 27th 2011 at 1:18:32 PM •••

It mixes envy with jealousy.

Envy = desire for sth others have but you don't Jealousy = fear of loss of sth you already have

ie. take a couple and a "third wheel", other guy interested in a girl:

boyfriend may be jealous of the other guy (afraid to lose her), but other guy is envious (wishes he had the girl).

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Ju Since: Jan, 2014
Feb 18th 2011 at 7:24:11 PM •••

What? From what I understand, 'jealousy' is about wanting something (or someone) that someone else has, but envy simply means either hating someone's good fortune or taking pleasure in their misery.

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