So, what exactly is the Warden? Right now half the description is about social norms that seem to come from one series in particular, and beyond that seems to be describing a Samurai.
Personally I feel like there is sort of a "Titan" or "heavily armored two-handed axe/hammer knight" archetype that it accidentally hits on, which could be mentioned, but as it is now it seems incoherent at best.
Hide / Show RepliesHere's my take.
- The Warrior Other Names: Brute, Titan, Vanguard A more offensively-oriented general upgrade to the basic Fighter, the Warrior trades the Knight's emphasis on defense and support for brute offensive power, favoring large, two-handed weapons that can smash straight through entire swathes of enemies and heavy armor that offsets their lack of a shield, as well as the immense strength required to use both.
Visual examples, in case what I'm getting at isn't clear.
Arms Warrior, World of Warcraft
Brute Fighter, Dungeons and Dragons 5th Edition◊
EDIT: Not sure why links aren't working. Chop off https://tvtropes.org/' from the front of the URL and /' from the back.
Edited by DarthWalrusWould you like to make that edit?
Freudian Excuse: Not one person is entirely good or evil; something will have to have happened in the past to make them what they are today.Probably. I'm just waiting a bit because it's a big change and I don't like being unilateral which these things.
I have a question: How is "soldier" an appropriate alternate term for "rebel"? Should I erase that?
Freudian Excuse: Not one person is entirely good or evil; something will have to have happened in the past to make them what they are today.I think the implication is a low-ranking soldier with lesser equipment that has to get by with pragmatism?
Honestly I'm 50/50 on it. Not even sure if "Rebel" is a fitting name for the archetype as a whole, especially since "Bandit" in the Thief category also exists. Then again it can be argued to be a similar case to War Priest vs Paladin.
Additionally, I'm not sure if "Inquisitive" even fits as a rogue class. Beastmaster also seems a bit weird being both a Ranger subclass and a class on it's own.
Edited by DarthWalrusThis page uses too many words. it seems to be an index, but thanks to a lot of words and lack of page navigation, it is a shitty index. And it isn't a proper analysis page because it doesn't have any analysis. Obviously, it is not a proper trope page.
A while back (gosh, years now I reckon) I tried adding a 'merchant' to the Rarer Class Archetypes section of this page, only it to be removed. At the time I cut my losses and moved on, but now coming back later and seeing the additions to this page, I thought I might throw my hat back into the ring. Merchants and their variants specialize in gaining extra loot and gold after battle, haggling for better buying and selling prices, finding over-world resources and perhaps crafting them, and maybe even spending gold to deal extra damage. Maybe it'd be better as a rouge sub-type, but my opinion is that it is a legitimate archetype. Anyone have objections or any other additional comments?
From the article:
The Mime: Also known as the Mimic or the Blue Mage (gee, I wonder why).
Actually, I really do wonder why. The first two Final Fantasy games that had mimes (5 and 6) ALSO both had blue mage classes. Blue mages use enemy skills (on command, as regular magic) while mimics use skills from teammates (on command as transferrable skills in 6 and directly after a teammate used it in 5) They're distinct classes. I figure nobody that actually played either FF 5 or 6 would confuse them, hence the vague reference to Final Fantasy is more confusing than clarifying.
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