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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 9:32:33 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help, started by permeakra on Mar 1st 2017 at 3:04:04 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DarthWalrus Since: Jan, 2015
Sep 12th 2020 at 6:47:11 PM •••

So, what exactly is the Warden? Right now half the description is about social norms that seem to come from one series in particular, and beyond that seems to be describing a Samurai.

Personally I feel like there is sort of a "Titan" or "heavily armored two-handed axe/hammer knight" archetype that it accidentally hits on, which could be mentioned, but as it is now it seems incoherent at best.

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DarthWalrus Since: Jan, 2015
Sep 12th 2020 at 6:54:27 PM •••

Here's my take.

  • The Warrior Other Names: Brute, Titan, Vanguard A more offensively-oriented general upgrade to the basic Fighter, the Warrior trades the Knight's emphasis on defense and support for brute offensive power, favoring large, two-handed weapons that can smash straight through entire swathes of enemies and heavy armor that offsets their lack of a shield, as well as the immense strength required to use both.

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DarthWalrus Since: Jan, 2015
Sep 12th 2020 at 7:05:24 PM •••

Visual examples, in case what I'm getting at isn't clear.

Sven, from Dota 2

Arms Warrior, World of Warcraft

Brute Fighter, Dungeons and Dragons 5th Edition

EDIT: Not sure why links aren't working. Chop off https://tvtropes.org/' from the front of the URL and /' from the back.

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mdalsted Since: Jul, 2010
Sep 12th 2020 at 9:36:25 PM •••

Would you like to make that edit?

Freudian Excuse: Not one person is entirely good or evil; something will have to have happened in the past to make them what they are today.
DarthWalrus Since: Jan, 2015
Sep 12th 2020 at 11:54:16 PM •••

Probably. I'm just waiting a bit because it's a big change and I don't like being unilateral which these things.

mdalsted Since: Jul, 2010
Sep 17th 2020 at 7:28:12 AM •••

I have a question: How is "soldier" an appropriate alternate term for "rebel"? Should I erase that?

Freudian Excuse: Not one person is entirely good or evil; something will have to have happened in the past to make them what they are today.
DarthWalrus Since: Jan, 2015
Sep 17th 2020 at 3:15:53 PM •••

I think the implication is a low-ranking soldier with lesser equipment that has to get by with pragmatism?

Honestly I'm 50/50 on it. Not even sure if "Rebel" is a fitting name for the archetype as a whole, especially since "Bandit" in the Thief category also exists. Then again it can be argued to be a similar case to War Priest vs Paladin.

Additionally, I'm not sure if "Inquisitive" even fits as a rogue class. Beastmaster also seems a bit weird being both a Ranger subclass and a class on it's own.

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permeakra Since: Jul, 2010
Mar 1st 2017 at 5:41:06 AM •••

This page uses too many words. it seems to be an index, but thanks to a lot of words and lack of page navigation, it is a shitty index. And it isn't a proper analysis page because it doesn't have any analysis. Obviously, it is not a proper trope page.

MangaB Since: Oct, 2013
Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:38:00 AM •••

A while back (gosh, years now I reckon) I tried adding a 'merchant' to the Rarer Class Archetypes section of this page, only it to be removed. At the time I cut my losses and moved on, but now coming back later and seeing the additions to this page, I thought I might throw my hat back into the ring. Merchants and their variants specialize in gaining extra loot and gold after battle, haggling for better buying and selling prices, finding over-world resources and perhaps crafting them, and maybe even spending gold to deal extra damage. Maybe it'd be better as a rouge sub-type, but my opinion is that it is a legitimate archetype. Anyone have objections or any other additional comments?

Boksha Since: Nov, 2010
Aug 24th 2011 at 6:44:21 PM •••

From the article:

The Mime: Also known as the Mimic or the Blue Mage (gee, I wonder why).

Actually, I really do wonder why. The first two Final Fantasy games that had mimes (5 and 6) ALSO both had blue mage classes. Blue mages use enemy skills (on command, as regular magic) while mimics use skills from teammates (on command as transferrable skills in 6 and directly after a teammate used it in 5) They're distinct classes. I figure nobody that actually played either FF 5 or 6 would confuse them, hence the vague reference to Final Fantasy is more confusing than clarifying.

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