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MagBas MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
MagBas
Nov 26th 2016 at 3:22:21 PM •••

  • By the time Itachi Uchiha has been portrayed in a positive light, his mind-raping of Sasuke and Kakashi without any visible remorse the former of which decides to defect from Konoha because of it along with helping Akatsuki in extracting the Tailed-beasts from the hosts without trying to help them in any way, has all been brushed aside and he is instead portrayed as a selfless saint.
  • Obito Uchiha has attempted to murder an infant that has just been born, summoned the nine-tails to Konoha killing lots of people, send the state of the Kiri village to hell, formed the Akatsuki that is responsible for even more deaths, aided Itachi in killing off his own clan, and started a pointless war causing many people to die all because he is throwing a temper tantrum towards Rin's death. Yet when he finally does a Redemption Equals Death, he reunites with Rin in the afterlife with open arms with Rin stating that Obito is simply a misunderstood fellow as if she forgot every heinous act Obito did after she forces Kakashi to kill her. Naruto himself calls Obito an awesome guy, knowing he was the same man that caused most of the problems in his life, including killing his parents, leaving him the bullied orphan he was for most of his life. Not to mention murdering one of Naruto's friends right in front of him just a few minutes earlier.

Both the characters in question died as consequence of their evil acts- lack of punishment and forgiveness are different things.

Nocturnalux Since: Jan, 2001
May 31st 2016 at 7:44:30 PM •••

Would Akio from Revolutionary Girl Utena qualify? While he does lose to Utena and Anthy walks out on him in end, he is still the functioning authority at Ohtori, has all of his power and is ready to start the cycle of duels anew. Even Anthy walking out on him does not seem to bother him much. Considering all the grief he has caused to virtually everyone in the cast, either directly or otherwise, including seducing and breaking 14 year old Utena, the lack of comeuppance makes him very valid candidate for a karma houdini.

Edited by Nocturnalux
Zoorteg Since: Oct, 2010
Aug 17th 2014 at 10:30:34 PM •••

I removed Kouga's example since, as I had noted before, Kouga's pride, greed for power and revenge got almost all the Wolf Clans decimated that he wanted to protect. He failed as a leader, he lost the shards of the Jewel and therefore his power, he didn't get the girl, and he didn't even get the revenge he wanted so much, giving it up to protect the few Wolf Youkais that remained. At the end of his story, he lost basically everything he cared about.

Edited by 201.141.36.13
joshstoker Since: Jul, 2014
Aug 9th 2014 at 8:23:09 PM •••

"Shinji/Paul in the Pokémon anime, has gotten away with countless cases of psychological and physical abuse towards his own Pokemon, equally countless cases of neglect and abandonment, multiple counts of poor sportsmanship, conduct unbecoming a Pokemon trainer outside the arena, one count of critically demoralizing a Gym Leader, and one Rage Quit, among others, with nary a word in reprimand for it."

I feel the Paul one needs to be fixed, as its entry borders on hyperbole. Just a couple examples: A.) To my recollection Paul never physically abused his pokemon. B.) The pokemon he deemed unable to handle training from him psychologically he seemed to do away with early on. The pokemon that are still with him have been shown to be emotionally tough enough. Chimchar being the only exception as it took longer for Paul to give up on him. Which next leads me into... C.) The pokemon paul released were from the wild to begin with OR were given to other trainers (such as Azumarill), the only one this has a case for is Chimchar where he formed a bond early on and stayed with him longer than his other pokemon. when Paul released him he was in a bad emotional state. But Paul gets his comeuppance on this front when Infernape unleashes his power under Ash. But other than that one example COUNTLESS is a gross exaggeration when ONE is the only one with definitive proof. D.) Sportsmanship is debatable on the severity of his actions and whether karma was needed there. E.) Ditto on his conduct as a pokemon trainer as Paul was well within his rights. F.) So why does every person who criticizes a trainer or call them week NEED TO BE DEALT with about this? G.) The Rage quit overlaps with Chimchar which Paul was dealt with.

Seriously aside from Chimchar I didn't think Paul needed to be dealt with every act he commited just because he showed "attitude" during it and some people didn't like it. And since Paul learned to be a little more trusting by the end and had Infernape beat his pokemon with the power he sought I think Paul should be removed from this trope.

Edited by 63.153.248.45
Gatomon41 Since: Mar, 2010
Jun 19th 2013 at 1:30:12 PM •••

Would the Digimon Emperor from Digimon Adventure 02 count?

I’m tired of the sexist garbage going on this site. I’m leaving, this site now just trash.
diablejambe Since: Aug, 2010
Jan 16th 2011 at 6:04:48 PM •••

Does Mu La Flaga from Gundam Seed Destiny count as a Karma Houdini? He started off the war, interfered with the Junius 7 break-up attempt, brainwashed child soldiers, and was the ranking officer on the scene when the Destroy obliterated 3 cities in Europe, more than likely killing millions of people. Then he jumps over to join Orb and gets instantly forgiven, becomes a high-ranking Orb official and gets to marry the love of his life.

Sure, he was brainwashed into thinking he was somebody he wasn't, but early in the series he says "I wonder when I crossed the line and became a wicked man", so he clearly understands that what he's doing is wrong.

The reason I'm asking is because he was on here awhile ago, but was then removed for reasons that I never got, so if somebody else could chime in it would be greatly appreciated.

Jordan Azor Ahai Since: Jan, 2001
Azor Ahai
Jan 5th 2011 at 11:58:32 AM •••

I just made a bunch of changes to that Haruhi Suzumiya example, which I feel made the example much less ranting, gives context for why the others still hang out with her (I thought the original example was kind of off-base in blaming Mikuru, Haruhi's victim- she hangs out with Haruhi because it's her job).

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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
Jan 5th 2011 at 12:50:23 PM •••

Fair enough, I'm not very familiar with the series in general, and I assumed familairity with the series would not be necessary to interpret that correctly. Excuse me for assuming that someone who would use false incrimination as a means of blackmail for exclusively material gains was the villain, and that Mikuru was simply a Horrible Judge of Character to be hanging out with Haruhi, rather than required to.

In any case, though, the image clearly demonstrates the trope, series familiarity or not.

Jordan Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 5th 2011 at 4:16:26 PM •••

Sorry if I was too vehement before. I assumed you were a lot more familiar with the series (because generally, people who add characters as page images are massive fans of the work in question), which made me think you were really distorting the series. Thanks for adding your further edits/fixes to mine.

I also gotta admit that I didn't think it was obvious in the picture that Haruhi was forcing the guy's hand, but now I see it's pretty clear, so I don't mind it as much as an image (although I'm still not sure this trope really needs one- I'm not sure Haruhi is anywhere near the most egregious in anime).

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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
Jan 5th 2011 at 7:02:53 PM •••

She doesn't necessarily have to be the most egregious example; she just needs to demonstrate it in a still image.

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