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2nd Jun '17 11:46:36 AM Wildstar93
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** The KidSamurai in the episode "Challenge Of The Samurai" is a pretty infamous example. He rudely interrupts Ash just before he's ready to catch a Weedle, leaving the Weedle to warn its Beedrill swarm. He makes Ash and Misty flee with him and doesn't let Ashi recall his Metapod, and then he has the gall to call Ash a terrible trainer for abandoning his Metapod and causing all of this trouble...[[{{Hypocrite}} if he weren't the one causing all this to happen in the first place]]. In the end, the samurai doesn't receive a telling-off or anything, and Ash is the one who ends up learning a lesson about [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop accepting the blame for something that wasn't his fault]].

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** The KidSamurai in the episode "Challenge Of The Samurai" is a pretty infamous example. He rudely interrupts Ash just before he's ready to catch a Weedle, leaving the Weedle to warn its Beedrill swarm. He makes Ash and Misty flee with him and doesn't let Ashi Ash recall his Metapod, and then he has the gall to call Ash a terrible trainer for abandoning his Metapod and causing all of this trouble...[[{{Hypocrite}} if he weren't the one causing all this to happen in the first place]]. In the end, the samurai doesn't receive a telling-off or anything, and Ash is the one who ends up learning a lesson about [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop accepting the blame for something that wasn't his fault]].
2nd Jun '17 6:32:22 AM Wildstar93
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** The KidSamurai in the episode "Challenge Of The Samurai" is a pretty infamous example. He rudely interrupts Ash just before he's ready to catch a Weedle, leaving the Weedle to warn its Beedrill swarm. He makes Ash and Misty flee with him and doesn't let Ashi recall his Metapod, and then he has the gall to call Ash a terrible trainer for abandoning his Metapod and causing all of this trouble...[[{{Hypocrite}} if he weren't the one causing all this to happen in the first place]]. In the end, the samurai doesn't receive a telling-off or anything, and Ash is the one who ends up learning a lesson about [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop accepting the blame for something that wasn't his fault]].
31st May '17 6:45:46 PM nombretomado
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* Asuham Boone from ''Anime/OvermanKingGainer''. Towards the end of the series, his obsession with getting back at Gain for the whole mess with Asuham's sister Karin degenerates to the point where Asuham willingly manipulates Cynthia and a lot of his underlings (and President Munt himself) in order to awaken the Overdevil, an EldritchAbomination capable of destroying the world. He never seemed hesitant nor regretful about it... and all that happens to him is that he gets his Dominator shot down and gets a WhatWereYouThinking speech from Karin herself (who had come to terms with the fact that Gain's relationship with her wouldn't have lasted). Not much of a punishment, huh? Understandable in that YoshiyukiTomino had come out of his problems with depression and was producing lighter and more idealistic shows... but still, some were dissatisfied letting Asuham go like that, after all the crap he pulled.

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* Asuham Boone from ''Anime/OvermanKingGainer''. Towards the end of the series, his obsession with getting back at Gain for the whole mess with Asuham's sister Karin degenerates to the point where Asuham willingly manipulates Cynthia and a lot of his underlings (and President Munt himself) in order to awaken the Overdevil, an EldritchAbomination capable of destroying the world. He never seemed hesitant nor regretful about it... and all that happens to him is that he gets his Dominator shot down and gets a WhatWereYouThinking speech from Karin herself (who had come to terms with the fact that Gain's relationship with her wouldn't have lasted). Not much of a punishment, huh? Understandable in that YoshiyukiTomino Creator/YoshiyukiTomino had come out of his problems with depression and was producing lighter and more idealistic shows... but still, some were dissatisfied letting Asuham go like that, after all the crap he pulled.
20th May '17 5:18:35 PM Kotomikun
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* In ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', Kyubey ultimately does not receive any punishment for his (species's) millennia-long campaign of turning little girls into [[OurLichesAreDifferent liches]] and, eventually, {{Eldritch Abomination}}s, all in the name of [[PoweredByAForsakenChild anti-entropy energy production]], while having no real regard for the well-being of the victims or humanity as a whole. The ending replaces the "eldritch abomination" part with regular old death, making Kyubey's questionable power-generation tactic less efficient, but he suffers no direct consequences and gets to continue [[DealWithTheDevil making satanic contracts with children]]. In TheMovie, he attempts to bring back the old system, and this time he ''does'' get some sort of punishment, [[MindRape possibly psychological]]; but [[BrokenBase this ending is controversial for other reasons]].
18th Apr '17 8:10:53 AM mouschilight
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18th Apr '17 8:09:12 AM mouschilight
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** The Hidden Cloud village doesn't appear to undergo any hardship for the kidnapping attempt they made on the three-year-old Hinata, the eldest daughter of the Hyuuga clan head, during diplomatic negotiations, and indeed their RefugeInAudacity response, to demand the body of the man that had killed their ambassador while he was running off with Hinata, resulted in the death of a Konoha ninja and inflicted nine years of mental trauma on Neji. The only time this is brought up is when Yamato reminds the Raikage that the Leaf Village had to accommodate their demands for the sake of peace in the past.
** Orochimaru. Unlike most villains in the series, he's completely irredeemable having performed numerous massacres and experiments on prisoners (including children and infants, which were usually fatal) to become immortal. Yet after [[EnemyMine siding with the heroes against Madara]], [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse he's never seen again nor mentioned after the Great War.]] As of ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}'', which takes place fifteen years after the main series, Orochimaru is still alive and up to his old tricks. And not only Sasuke but even ''[[MessianicArchetype Naruto]]'' has no problem with casually paying a visit to him in his hideout and chatting with him. Not even the fact that Orochimaru has once again swapped into a younger body seems to phase them, beyond their finding his new appearance even odder than the old one. WordOfGod even confirmed that [[http://qaelios.tumblr.com/post/130767854594/notes-from-the-kishimoto-interview Orochimaru gained immortality]] later on. This is even [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] [[AdaptationExpansion in the anime adaptation]] of ''[[LightNovel/KonohaHidenThePerfectDayForAWedding Konoha Hiden]]'', where Orochimaru openly strolls around town and even participates in a video to send Naruto and Hinata well-wishes for their upcoming wedding, and only Yamato who was assigned to keep an eye on him finds anything wrong with this.

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** The Hidden Cloud village doesn't appear to undergo any hardship for the kidnapping attempt they made on the three-year-old 3-year-old Hinata, the eldest daughter of the Hyuuga clan head, during diplomatic negotiations, and indeed their RefugeInAudacity response, to demand the body of the man that had killed their ambassador while he was running off with Hinata, resulted in the death of a Konoha ninja and inflicted nine 9 years of mental trauma on Neji. The only time this is brought up is when Yamato reminds the Raikage that the Leaf Village had to accommodate their demands for the sake of peace in the past.
** Orochimaru. Unlike most villains in the series, he's completely irredeemable having performed numerous massacres and experiments on prisoners (including children and infants, which were usually fatal) to become immortal. Yet after [[EnemyMine siding with the heroes against Madara]], [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse he's never seen again nor mentioned after the Great War.]] As of ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}'', which takes place fifteen 15 years after the main series, Orochimaru is still alive and up to his old tricks. And not only Sasuke but even ''[[MessianicArchetype Naruto]]'' has no problem with casually paying a visit to him in his hideout and chatting with him. Not even the fact that Orochimaru has once again swapped into a younger body seems to phase them, beyond their finding his new appearance even odder than the old one. WordOfGod even confirmed that [[http://qaelios.tumblr.com/post/130767854594/notes-from-the-kishimoto-interview Orochimaru gained immortality]] later on. This is even [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] [[AdaptationExpansion in the anime adaptation]] of ''[[LightNovel/KonohaHidenThePerfectDayForAWedding Konoha Hiden]]'', where Orochimaru openly strolls around town and even participates in a video to send [[OfficialCouple Naruto and Hinata Hinata]] well-wishes for their upcoming wedding, and only Yamato who was assigned to keep an eye on him finds anything wrong with this.



** Similarly, Sasuke Uchiha is pardoned for his crimes following his HeelFaceTurn, despite declaring war on Konoha, kidnapping B (which nearly starts an international incident), trying to kill the Kages, brainwashing the Tailed Beasts, and trying to kill the few people who still care about him (namely, [[TrueCompanions Team 7]]). To top it off, Sakura still forgives him to the point of marrying him, despite the horrible genjutsu he used on her in Chapter 693. [[FridgeBrilliance However, it might explain]] why he takes his [[TheAtoner role of investigating potential threats to the world so seriously]] instead of taking the easier choice of settling down in the village with his friends.

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** Similarly, Sasuke Uchiha is pardoned for his crimes following his HeelFaceTurn, despite declaring war on Konoha, kidnapping B Bee (which nearly starts an international incident), trying to kill the Kages, brainwashing the Tailed Beasts, and trying to kill the few people who still care about him (namely, [[TrueCompanions Team 7]]). To top it off, Sakura still forgives him to the point of marrying him, despite the horrible genjutsu he used on her in Chapter 693. [[FridgeBrilliance However, it might explain]] why he takes his [[TheAtoner role of investigating potential threats to the world so seriously]] instead of taking the easier choice of settling down in the village with his friends.
18th Apr '17 8:06:37 AM mouschilight
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** The Hidden Cloud village doesn't appear to undergo any hardship for the kidnapping attempt they made on the daughter of the Hyuuga clan head during diplomatic negotiations, and indeed their RefugeInAudacity response, to demand the body of the man that had killed their ambassador while he was running off with his daughter, resulted in the death of a Konoha ninja and inflicted years of mental trauma on Neji. The only time this is brought up is when Yamato reminds the Raikage that the Leaf Village had to accommodate their demands for the sake of peace in the past.
** Orochimaru. Unlike most villains in the series, he's completely irredeemable having performed numerous massacres and experiments on prisoners (including children and infants, which were usually fatal) to become immortal. Yet after [[EnemyMine siding with the heroes against Madara]], [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse he's never seen again nor mentioned after the Great War.]] As of Manga/NarutoGaiden, which takes place 15 years after the series, Orochimaru is still alive and up to his old tricks. And not only Sasuke but even ''[[MessianicArchetype Naruto]]'' has no problem with casually paying a visit to him in his hideout and chatting with him. Not even the fact that Orochimaru has once again swapped into a younger body seems to phase them, beyond their finding his new appearance even odder than the old one. WordOfGod even confirmed that [[http://qaelios.tumblr.com/post/130767854594/notes-from-the-kishimoto-interview Orochimaru gained immortality]] later on. This is even [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the anime, where Orochimaru openly strolls around town and even participates in a video to send Naruto well-wishes, and only Yamato who was assigned to keep an eye on him finds anything wrong with this.

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** The Hidden Cloud village doesn't appear to undergo any hardship for the kidnapping attempt they made on the three-year-old Hinata, the eldest daughter of the Hyuuga clan head head, during diplomatic negotiations, and indeed their RefugeInAudacity response, to demand the body of the man that had killed their ambassador while he was running off with his daughter, Hinata, resulted in the death of a Konoha ninja and inflicted nine years of mental trauma on Neji. The only time this is brought up is when Yamato reminds the Raikage that the Leaf Village had to accommodate their demands for the sake of peace in the past.
** Orochimaru. Unlike most villains in the series, he's completely irredeemable having performed numerous massacres and experiments on prisoners (including children and infants, which were usually fatal) to become immortal. Yet after [[EnemyMine siding with the heroes against Madara]], [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse he's never seen again nor mentioned after the Great War.]] As of Manga/NarutoGaiden, ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}'', which takes place 15 fifteen years after the main series, Orochimaru is still alive and up to his old tricks. And not only Sasuke but even ''[[MessianicArchetype Naruto]]'' has no problem with casually paying a visit to him in his hideout and chatting with him. Not even the fact that Orochimaru has once again swapped into a younger body seems to phase them, beyond their finding his new appearance even odder than the old one. WordOfGod even confirmed that [[http://qaelios.tumblr.com/post/130767854594/notes-from-the-kishimoto-interview Orochimaru gained immortality]] later on. This is even [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] [[AdaptationExpansion in the anime, anime adaptation]] of ''[[LightNovel/KonohaHidenThePerfectDayForAWedding Konoha Hiden]]'', where Orochimaru openly strolls around town and even participates in a video to send Naruto well-wishes, and Hinata well-wishes for their upcoming wedding, and only Yamato who was assigned to keep an eye on him finds anything wrong with this.



** Similarly, Sasuke Uchiha is pardoned for his crimes following his HeelFaceTurn, despite declaring war on Konoha, kidnapping B (which nearly starts an international incident), trying to kill the Kages, brainwashing the Tailed Beasts, and trying to kill the few people who still care about him. To top it off, Sakura still forgives him to the point of marrying him, despite the horrible genjutsu he used on her in one of the last few chapters. It might explain why he takes his [[TheAtoner role of investigating potential threats to the world so seriously]] instead of taking the easier choice of settling down in the village with his friends.

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** Similarly, Sasuke Uchiha is pardoned for his crimes following his HeelFaceTurn, despite declaring war on Konoha, kidnapping B (which nearly starts an international incident), trying to kill the Kages, brainwashing the Tailed Beasts, and trying to kill the few people who still care about him. him (namely, [[TrueCompanions Team 7]]). To top it off, Sakura still forgives him to the point of marrying him, despite the horrible genjutsu he used on her in one of the last few chapters. It Chapter 693. [[FridgeBrilliance However, it might explain explain]] why he takes his [[TheAtoner role of investigating potential threats to the world so seriously]] instead of taking the easier choice of settling down in the village with his friends.
7th Apr '17 12:13:34 PM IniuriaTalis
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** Orochimaru. Unlike most villains in the series, he's completely irredeemable having performed numerous massacres and experiments on prisoners (including children and infants, which were usually fatal) to become immortal. Yet after [[EnemyMine siding with the heroes against Madara]], [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse he's never seen again nor mentioned after the Great War.]] As of Manga/NarutoGaiden, which takes place 15 years after the series, Orochimaru is still alive and up to his old tricks. And not only Sasuke but even ''[[MessianicArchetype Naruto]]'' has no problem with casually paying a visit to him in his hideout and chatting with him. Not even the fact that Orochimaru has once again swapped into a younger body seems to phase them, beyond their finding his new appearance even odder than the old one. WordOfGod even confirmed that [[http://qaelios.tumblr.com/post/130767854594/notes-from-the-kishimoto-interview Orochimaru gained immortality]] later on.

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** Orochimaru. Unlike most villains in the series, he's completely irredeemable having performed numerous massacres and experiments on prisoners (including children and infants, which were usually fatal) to become immortal. Yet after [[EnemyMine siding with the heroes against Madara]], [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse he's never seen again nor mentioned after the Great War.]] As of Manga/NarutoGaiden, which takes place 15 years after the series, Orochimaru is still alive and up to his old tricks. And not only Sasuke but even ''[[MessianicArchetype Naruto]]'' has no problem with casually paying a visit to him in his hideout and chatting with him. Not even the fact that Orochimaru has once again swapped into a younger body seems to phase them, beyond their finding his new appearance even odder than the old one. WordOfGod even confirmed that [[http://qaelios.tumblr.com/post/130767854594/notes-from-the-kishimoto-interview Orochimaru gained immortality]] later on. This is even [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the anime, where Orochimaru openly strolls around town and even participates in a video to send Naruto well-wishes, and only Yamato who was assigned to keep an eye on him finds anything wrong with this.
3rd Apr '17 2:47:05 AM sayaleviathan
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*** In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'', Rustal Elion was never punished for his atrocities such as manipulating media into making Tekkadan as terrorists and using illegal weapons. And yet, for a man who wants to keep the status quo, he ends up ironically reforming Gjallarhorn only because three of the Seven Stars families had been extinct. In the end, he's seen as a "hero" for putting down [=McGillis=] and Tekkadan and helping Kudelia abolish the Human Debris system. Many viewers see this more of PragmaticVillainy.

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*** ** In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'', Rustal Elion was never punished for his atrocities such as manipulating media into making Tekkadan as terrorists and using illegal weapons. And yet, for a man who wants to keep the status quo, he ends up ironically reforming Gjallarhorn only because three of the Seven Stars families had been extinct. In the end, he's seen as a "hero" for putting down [=McGillis=] and Tekkadan and helping Kudelia abolish the Human Debris system. Many viewers see this more of PragmaticVillainy.
3rd Apr '17 2:40:01 AM sayaleviathan
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*** In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'', Rustal Elion was never punished for his atrocities such as manipulating media into making Tekkadan as terrorists and using illegal weapons. And yet, for a man who wants to keep the status quo, he ends up ironically reforming Gjallarhorn only because three of the Seven Stars families had been extinct. In the end, he's seen as a "hero" for putting down [=McGillis=] and Tekkadan and helping Kudelia abolish the Human Debris system. Many viewers see this more of PragmaticVillainy.
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