That would be for the page about the series in general, but look at the definition of Book Ends again just to be sure if it fits.
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Could you please explain why the "accounted for" part is not covered by justified trope angle? Thanks
Thing is Vader certainly improves from IV to V in agility etc, it comes from sequel escalation characterization marches on and all that but no in-universe reasons are suggested in the original trilogy frame IIRC
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Why does it matter? No point is ever made of it in the film; this is just us noodling around.
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- Villain Forgot to Level Grind: Unlike in Bespin, Luke is now almost a full-fledged Jedi Knight no longer outmatched by Vader, who is eventually vanquised. The robotical nature of Vader and the decades without any challenge may account for his stagnation.
This example is not a valid one, in my opinion. It is true that Vader did not improve his abilities in anticipation of Luke's return, but it's accounted for by (a) the fact that he's old and, well, half-robot; (b) the fact that Palpatine fully intends to replace him with Luke.
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I added it, while I thought the accounted for thing would fall under Justified Trope in line with the current https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/PlayingWith/VillainForgotToLevelGrind
, I expected the main thing against its addition would be it's a Video Game trope or for Matrix-like digital worlds and the likes with quantified power levels etc. It's streching it for the star wars moviverse
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As it happens, I'm not curating the Dark Knight Rises article so I didn't see that. If there are more than a few conflicts as to what constitutes a valid example, they should be taken to the Trope Talk forum.
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Why is there no Pig man trope on this page? There are the Gamorreans. (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gamorrean)
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Sorry, Jabba is far from a Complete Monster. It takes a heck of a lot more than being a slimy gangster lord to qualify for that trope.
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I have a few thoughts regarding the Badass Decay entry. First, thanks to DQZ for getting rid of it. Second, for anyone considering adding it back, Stormtroopers are supposed to be a Badass Army in Canon but never actually appear that way in the films, due to the Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy. So it's kind of pointless to claim decay in the third film when they were never really Bad Ass to begin with.
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I was wondering if the 'Book Ends' trope would apply to this film (or some other closely-related trope). At the end of the lightsabre duel at Mustafar in Revenge of the Sith, Anakin is caught in flames from the flowing lava, which could symbolize the end of Anakin and the birth of Vader. At the end of Return of the Jedi, Vader's armor and flames meet again, this time during the cremation, probably symbolizing the end of Vader, and the return of Anakin to the light side of the Force.
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