Film Captain America The First Avenger Discussion

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GuiRitter
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12:43:35 PM Aug 1st 2015
Cool Plane: first bullet is wrong and the second is halfway there. For the former, I don't remember the "helicopter"'s look in the film, but the flying wing is not the real Horten H.XVIII. It's merely inspired by it. As for the latter, the flying wing was not inspired by the Amerika Bomber, it was inspired by one Amerika Bomber. It was the name of the competition, which had several proposals made by different manufacturers. I'd rather leave it for someone more skilled to rewrite that part.
genisgone
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09:19:33 AM May 27th 2014
So, I know that on the one hand, if someone is looking for fanfic involving specific characters it might be simpler to just go to the rec page for their movies, but doesn't it seem like it might be better organized in general to consolidate all of the recs onto one page, with different folders for different characters/movies/whatever, rather than checking four different pages for fanfic recs because there are so few on any given page, or because something might have been recc'd on multiple pages, or because someone is unsure of the correct page to rec something?

If, for example, someone were looking for Loki fic, they'd have four different pages to search (Thor, Thor 2, The Avengers and the MCU main page) and comparatively little actual content per page, because they're all split up. It gets even worse if you're looking for stuff involving Coulson or Tony Stark.

I'm just wondering if it wouldn't be easier to get rid of the individual movies' fanfic rec pages and group all of the existing recommendations on the MCU rec page. What does everyone else think?
Ianto
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02:43:06 PM May 14th 2012
Re:Fondue

To this Swiss troper, when Stark (and later Steve) attempt to pronounce it, it sounds something like 'fun-do', which certainly does seem like an unusual euphemism.

Steve is called naive and not particularly well educated due to not understanding what the word meant. However, for anyone familiar with the correct (French) pronounciation, the word sounds nothing like fondue (as far as I can recall, the vowels needed in the word are vowels that do not even exist in the English language). Which this troper guesses would confuse a lot of European viewers more familiar with the French pronounciation.

1) Is this relevant (or am I the only one confused by the pronounciation). 2) If it is relevant, where would this go, seeing as it is not bilingual bonus but bilingual obfuscation.
MrDeath
07:17:03 AM May 15th 2012
I think you're the only one confused by the pronunciation. I heard it clearly as "fondue," which is the common English pronunciation of the word.
DrYak
06:42:02 AM Aug 26th 2012
Being French speaking and Swiss too, I also noticed the b0rked pronunciation.

But I think it's more a case of them being simply english native speakers. As Ianto said, English lacks the vowels for it (no nasal, so "on" is just plain missing, and english tends to pronounce its vowels as diphthongs so "ue" isn't easy either. Note that, as Ianto will probably attest, the Swiss-Germans don't pronounce it with the french "on" neither). As Mr Death points out, that pronunciation is the way any english speaker will say it. (Cue in jokes about how the french speakers themselves always manage to creatively break any foreign word).

It just shows that Steve has spent a great of his life getting beaten in Brooklyn and hasn't seen much of the world, specially not Europe. Whereas both Stark and Peggy are well-traveled, have both seen europe (and actually come from this side of the pond, in Peggy's case) Also serves as a way to show that Steve has romantic feelings toward Peggy, as he's automatically suspicious and jealous.
loracarol
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01:16:13 PM Feb 23rd 2012

No, I don't. Anyone care to explain? Please?
ztyran
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04:30:17 PM Aug 1st 2011
I don't think Beyond the Impossible is appropriate for the four places Cap got beaten in. For most people in New York, they don't go far past their own neighborhood, which Steve seemed to be in when he mentioned it.
Sternford
09:28:46 AM Aug 4th 2011
This whole page is a mess of things that don't belong
MrDeath
09:39:37 AM Aug 4th 2011
What's that supposed to mean?
Digifiend
07:18:14 AM Aug 25th 2011
Sternford, examples please.
Acridity
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12:53:02 PM Jul 29th 2011
Er, aren't some of those actor allusions reaching a bit? I'm not sure a vague similarity between names or roles is something terribly notable.
Jackerel
01:24:34 PM Jul 29th 2011
To most of us, "actor allusion = extremely vague coincidence", unfortunately.
Kalaong
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09:04:04 PM Jul 6th 2011
In Ultimate Marvel, Erskine tested the Rebirth serum on convicts. Mostly black ones. Ultimate Nick Fury was Captain America's prototype. Does that mean that Samuel L. Jackson will have yet another cameo?
MrDeath
06:52:30 AM Jul 7th 2011
Nope. Sgt. Fury is being played by someone else in this, and Sam Jackson is only in the 'present' of this continuity.
metaphysician
08:25:25 PM Jul 24th 2011
Where exactly did Fury appear in the past? Going by the credits, the black guy in the Howling Commandos was Gabriel Jones. Now granted, he totally *could* have been Fury, and I can see him being retconned into such ( maybe Nick Fury started as an alias ).
suedenim
04:26:36 AM Jul 25th 2011
Nah, it's Gabe. Presumably (and sensibly) they wanted a more streamlined setup, without the confusion of Nick Fury *also* being a WWII veteran. I was a bit surprised they didn't remake the Gabe character into Fury's father or grandfather, though.
AFP
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10:21:18 PM Jun 22nd 2011
I think we should reverse the redirect so that Captain America: The First Avenger points back towards Film/Captain America, then divide the article between the 1990 movie and the new movie. Should be easy enough by putting each movie's part in a folder.

Alternately, we need to take the redirect off of Film/Captain America entirely and throw in a link to the new movie's page.
Kalaong
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09:55:42 PM May 19th 2011
edited by Kalaong
This could be a politically inconvenient movie. In the forties, Americans - and particularly American soldiers - held themselves to a ridiculously high standard. Ask Captain America to pee in a cup and you will piss yourself from the disapproving stare he'd give you. The War on Terror -"threat levels", "rendition" - would piss him off to no end - "Freedom only to those 'worthy' of it - and YOU decide who's worthy of it! YOU MAKE ME SICK!!"
AFP
10:24:41 PM Jun 22nd 2011
Pretty sure that, being a soldier, Captain America would have had many occasions to pee in cups for various reasons having nothing to do with freedom. I'm not sure if they did urinalysis for military recruits in the 40's though.
Kalaong
10:40:46 AM Jul 31st 2011
Having seen the movie, I think that there will be a lot of friction between Cap and Fury. Fury has a touch too much snark in him for the guy who "doesn't like bullies." I foresee awkward Bromance between Cap and Thor, however... which is precisely in character. Especially as Joss Whedon is directing The Avengers.
MrDeath
07:21:18 AM Aug 1st 2011
I dunno about that. When Fury meets Cap right at the end, he's nothing but deference and respect. And being snarky =/= being a bully.
metaphysician
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05:53:16 PM Feb 10th 2011
You know, its weird. Captain America is further from release and has less promo material out, yet has a much better page than Thor. . .
YoungGun2
10:11:04 AM Apr 8th 2011
We must fix this.
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