Discussion Creator / VicMignogna

Just yesterday, Marchi announced she's reached a mutual agreement. Can't find the details, maybe they'll be revealed later.

After 5 years it’s officially over. I expect his fans will likely continue to protest his innocence for the next decade at least despite all evidence to the contrary.

Damn, 5 years... I vehemently remember finding out about this situation a few months after it blew up (I think it was either March, April, or May?). A lot of people who've sided with him outright dropped supporting Funimation or English dubs as whole and I seemingly couldn't go into any FMA dub video that didn't have at least one #IStandWithVic person in the comment section.

Of course, this was before I even gotten a YouTube account, and for the most part I've remained neutral on the situation (partly because I don't wanna risk getting harassed by Vic's supporters for going against him or even liking dubbed anime and partly because while I don't outright hate the company my love for Funimation had diminished significantly after the incident), but I do have to admit; the ISWV crowd is just as equally as bad the KV crowd, if not worse.

Honestly, I just don't see it. Ignoring how abhorent of a person he is, he just isn't very good as a VA. His voice is really raspy, whiny and not very fitting for a lot of the characters he played. The only roles I thought he did well in were Kou Ichijou from Persona 4 (where I didn't even recognise him at first) and Kurz Weber from Full Metal Panic (who's basically a less-fucked up, less pedo-y version of Vic anyway). Every other role I've seen him in is just ill-fitting for him, ESPECIALLY Broly. I was never sold on the (English version of the) character until Vic was replaced with ohnny Yong Bosch in Fighter Z.

I was wondering when the appeals were gonna happen.

Also, 0-34. He kinda sucks at this, huh?

0-35 technically; the appeals court ruled that the trial court erred by giving Monia and her husband so little in legal fees, so he failed even more than predicted.

I wonder how much copium his fans are on now that he failed appeals. That was their one lifeline.

0-37 now. His lawyer submitted a Motion for Rehearing and a Motion for En Banc Reconsideration (basically trying to get this Frivolous Lawsuit back to court again). Both were denied yesterday. https://twitter.com/KathrynTewson/status/1572716004878462977 https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1575727391502368769

Now 0-55 (1 request for review Supreme Court denied + losing 17 claims again). https://twitter.com/KathrynTewson/status/1608849757296033792

For some reason the last sentence doesn't read right to me. I'll try re-writing it, we might want to also put a note about the TCPA stuff in there.

A defamation lawsuit was filed by Mignogna against several of his accusers and Funimation in 2019, but was dismissed for lack of evidence supporting his claims compared to the abundance of evidence provided by the defendants detailing his harassment and poor reputation (TCPA Note goes here). The Texas Court of Appeals upheld the dismissal in 2022, supporting the original verdict and drawing attention to the poor work of his lawyer.

The very last bit might be too much, but hey it might be worth drawing attention to that if any of his would-be fans come across the page.

Fine by me. I just wanted to make it brief, due to how much of a drawn-out footnote the appeal ended up being.

But yeah, Vic couldn't have done a worse job if his legal team consisted of Harvey Birdman, Lionel Hutz and Winston Payne.

It ain't over guys. He took it up to the Supreme Court of Texas. https://search.txcourts.gov/Case.aspx?cn=22-1016&coa=cossup https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1592933744276492288

I expect the SC to decline to hear it, there’s nothing notable in there for them to examine.

DENIED by SCOTX today

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1608854323655737344

https://www.txcourts.gov/supreme/orders-opinions/2022/december/december-30-2022/#:~:text=08%2D31%2D22)-,22%2D1016,-VICTOR%20MIGNOGNA%20v

Yep, good thing he lost.

There were so many allegations against him over the years that he was holding panels unprompted to try and debunk them for about a decade before it all blew up, on top of the number of people who testified under oath about his actions, that his forced exit from the industry is a net positive. That he’s not going to jail speaks more to the high burden to prove these allegations and how the statute of limitations on them is so short most of them are past it now.

Also he doesn’t have a massive group of people who support him. He has a vocal minority who complain a lot, but given how said group used to be able to bully conventions into inviting him and now can’t manage to get him an autograph session in a parking lot they’re nowhere near as large as they like to pretend.

I kinda agree. Also, one of his former roles have a typo in the name, but we can't fix it.

Didn't they also call him their Fuhrer early on?

While it could just be a case of the Risembool Rangers going too far for the sake of a reference, considering the behaviour exhibited by them once they became ISWV and the sorts of people they keep as company... it's a bit concerning, is all.

We should probably just flat out cut all of that.

EDIT: Okay, after several months of silence I have submitted the request to have that paragraph taken out. I think beyond an update when his appeals fail that's probably going to be it for edits for this page.

It was basically an open secret for 15 years up until he was fired. It was even dubbed by the The Escapist as "Funimation's worst-kept secret".

He admitted to around 95% of what he was accused of, arguing that they were all lying about not wanting it. The sheer volume of accusations, some of them documented on the internet years before 2019 saw it blow up.

Also I doubt Richard is arguing in good faith given that he said "anyone who didn't hate him already", given that definition would exclude absolutely everyone since I can't imagine anyone who would come forward with evidence about him being inappropriate would have a positive opinion of him.

Well of course he's not arguing in good faith. I just thought I'd point out the history behind the case. At this stage, there's kinda only one person who gets this defensive towards Vic, and it's the kind who sends death threats to judges for not siding with a mediocre VA with a dubious-at-best understanding of consent in a court case where the burden of proof was on him: the plaintiff.

Fair. I am just grateful they've stayed off TV Tropes, I can't imagine they will react well once his appeal is rejected.

I have no idea what you are attempting to say, and the fact that you spent several days editing it and changing it all around suggests you don't quite know what you're attempting to say.

Ah yes, an eye-roll emoji. Definitely something to respond to cases of death threats to a judicial entity.

Even as someone who is firmly anti-Vic that feels like it's going a bit too far.

I disagree. We don't put up Bill Cosby articles supporting him. If he has a Youtube series maybe I'd think we could link to that somewhere else on the site, but just his socials? Nah that is just advertising his personal brand.

It'd feel like something we'd should get more opinions of, but on the flip side this page doesn't get much traffic. Perhaps a ATT thread for a greater number of people?

EDIT: Made the Ask the Tropers discussion here

As predicted so long ago. I'd say everyone can move on now but baring a miracle Vic will try appealing and end up losing even more money.

Still, question is do we put in an edit request to update the page to reflect this or take a look how it's all written and put everything into the past tense? Something like "Vic attempted to sue several of his accusers but was unsuccessful"?

I say we cross that bridge when we get to it. While I have... opinions on the subject of who's in the right here, I think I speak for us all when I say the sooner this finishes & we can put all of this behind us, the better.

We are at the bridge, his case ended poorly for him and the appeal will go the same way.

Alright, I may as well give a shot at re-writing things. Given that the allegations are no longer on-going and it has been a year since this all started time to update it.

"Allegations of inappropriate touching of female convention attendees without consent and poor treatment of convention staffers has followed Mignogna throughout his entire career, coming to a head with the release of Dragon Ball Super: Broly in 2019 when these allegations began to attract wilder attention, joined by allegations from other voice actors, convention staffers and convention goers. In response to the allegations Funimation and Rooster Teeth announced that they would no longer work with Mignogna in future. Mignogna attempted to sue several of his accusers and Funimation for defamation, but his case was ruled to be without merit and dismissed."

I would hold judgement on the appeal(s) until we see the final decision. In the worst case, this could keep going for at least another year.

I disagree, purely because there is no chance of the appeals turning things differently. Vic's lawyer had to present clear and precise evidence for each individual element of each part of his claim, and any evidence that was his own testimony can not be counted in this. Between that and his lawyer's fuck ups he only had a single affidavit submitted as evidence which did not clearly show that Rial knowingly told a lie that damaged his reputation. As such it is impossible for his appeal to be granted as his lawyer did not provide enough evidence to meet the bare minimum required of him, and as you can't introduce new evidence in an appeal. His new lawyer would have to either argue that Dahlin's "I don't remember" comment is enough to prove that each defendant lied, knew they were lying, and those comments were the ones that damaged Vic and not any other, or they have to try and argue that the three affidavit's that weren't allowed in because they were submitted after the deadline should be allowed in. That's just not happening.

Putting that to the side for a moment, what do you think of the paragraph as written?

I think we could keep it brief by just adding onto that last pre-existing paragraph so it might look something like:

On January 2019, following the release of Dragon Ball Super: Broly, multiple allegations of sexual harassment perpetrated by Mignogna surfaced through various social media channels and news sites. In response to the allegations, Funimation and Rooster Teeth announced that they would no longer work with him in the future. Mignogna attempted to sue several of his accusers and Funimation, but his case was ruled to be without merit and dismissed.

I think it's important to state that these allegations have been going on for years, whereas writing it like that makes it sound like they only started in 2019. Also the entry as written singles out Rooster Teeth and Funimation as dropping him thus giving the impression it was only those two, whilst in reality Bang Zoom also cut ties and recast him and Sentai has not given him any new work since the scandal broke. That should probably be changed to reflect that he has been completely dropped by the mainstream anime industry.

I mean I feel like the paragraph before needs to be rewritten as well given how it talks glowingly about his fanclub, which he used to harass conventions and his accusers. But that's a longer term thing and should probably be handled a bit later by someone with a fresher perspective.

Alright, giving it another shot combining both of our examples;

Allegations of sexual harassment have followed Mignogna since 2003, ultimately coming to a head in January 2019 after the release of Dragon Ball Super: Broly. Multiple allegations of sexual harassment perpetrated by Mignogna on convention goers, convention staffers, and fellow voice actors went viral through various social media channels and news sites. In response to the allegations Mignogna was recast in almost all ongoing roles and ceased receiving new ones. A defamation lawsuit was filed by Mignonga against several of his accusers and Funimation but was dismissed by the courts for lack of merit.

My reasoning on this wording is as follows:

1) It is important to make it clear that the allegations have been going on for well over a decade, the previous wording gives the impression that all of this first came out in 2019. 2) Avoid getting into detail about which companies dropped him since as of this point every major company in Anime has stopped hiring him. 3) Make it clear that his lawsuit was ruled as being without merit. I don't think a full explanation of the TCPA and all the particulars would be relevant. As a side note his written appeal has been submitted and it is about as terrible as you'd expect.

That said I'm not super happy with some of the wording, so I'll see about getting a third party to look it over.

Seems fine to me.

@Shaoken - Some small edits to keep the wording more neutral and avoid going into speculation.

Allegations of sexual harassment have followed Mignogna for decades, ultimately coming to a head in January 2019 after the release of Dragon Ball Super Broly. Multiple stories of sexual harassment perpetrated by Mignogna on convention goers, convention staffers, and fellow voice actors went viral through various social media channels and news sites. Since then, Mignogna was recast in almost all ongoing roles and ceased receiving new ones. A defamation lawsuit was filed by Mignogna against several of his accusers and Funimation, but was dismissed by the courts for lack of merit.

That gets a thumbs up from me.

Put through the locked page thread and it's been updated.

The link is broken. I need a new one. That said, it seems like things didn't work out for him, and he's in a bad spot.

It's not broken. Just copy-paste the link instead of clicking directly.

We don't trope creators, we only trope works.

Plus, 15+ years of sexual harassment allegations is a tad more serious than Misdemeanor, this page is going to be a lightning rod for controversy for a good long while as it is so let's not risk making it worse.

I know misdemeanor is an understatement but I felt like it was the closest thing to describe his career crashing and burning for being a piece of [CENSORED]

Aside from the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement, but one of the reasons I don't think it applies is there isn't a single misdemeanor that ended the role.

It's years of his personality just leaking through. I don't think we can point to one single event and say "yep, this did it. We are crucifying him for this one action." The issue is ongoing behavior.

^ Put it in YMMV.

At this point there is no evidence that one is even on the cards. Vic has only retained the services of a law firm but has not as of yet filed a suit against anyone.

A suit was supposed to be filed on Monday, April 15, 2019. Then it was postponed to Tuesday because "juicy new details". According to them. Still nothing as of today.

And the suit was filed today, against Funimation, Monica Rial, her fiancé Ron and Jamie Maichi.

Yep. He's suing Funimation for over $1 million. Here's an article on that - https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-04-19/vic-mignogna-sues-funimation-jamie-marchi-monica-rial-ronald-toye/.145898

(though as far as we know, a court date has not been confirmed) (and in May 2019, there's been more shit-stirring about who's been served papers, who's avoiding being served/deposed)

Another update if anyone is following along. Funimation submitted their TPCA motion (Texas' anti-SLAAP law, aimed at stopping frivolous suits), the first hearing is on August 8th.They put forth the claim that Vic hasn't provided enough evidence to go to court (including not providing any contracts which was supposedly interfered with) and what the case against them dismissed. If approved Vic will have to pay all of Funimation's legal fees, plus the possibly of sanctions to deter any future lawsuits. The other three defendants are expected to submit their TPCA motions soon, and the consensus of Lawtwitter is that they would win.

I would hold judgement until it's finally over. That said, I wondered how he was supposed to win, since the burden of proof is on him as the plaintiff to prove the allegations wrong. I also fail to see how his deposition is helping his case.

Vic's deposition starts on page 20 for those of you interested. Some parts of the transcript are blank, likely due to mutual agreement between all lawyers to keep them confidential for the time being.

Given that his lawyer has never litigated a defamation or Torturous Interference with Contract case before, didn't coach Vic well for the deposition, we're so many months into all this and he's yet to provide a contract that he claims was interfered with (KC would be a difficult case to make since he went to that one), he can't link the defendants to any of the articles that he claims defames him (and one of said article writers has now public ally accused him of lying under oath), admitted that his reputation was done in by "death of a thousand cuts" which sabotages his lawsuit that it was four specific parties who are most at fault, and failed to prove that he's not a public figure (because Public Figures have to prove "Actual Malice" - which legally means that the defendant knew what they were saying was a lie).

With the other deposition that leaked Vic's lawyer took 28 minutes to ask a question of value, with everything before that being questions that call for speculation (and thus aren't admissible for a non-expert witness), and failed to turn up anything that would help with the case (he asked Ron if he believed the allegations and Ron said he 100% did, which will make proving that he didn't believe them all but impossible short of some kind of confession). I can't wait for the TPCA hearings, I really just want this all over as quickly as possible, while I can't look away from this train wreck it is getting tiring seeing Twitter go over the same points (that actual malice means a different thing in law then in the dictionary, that TI requires the defamation charge to stick, burden of proof never shifts in a court case, etc).

As of 1 hour ago, all claims against Jamie Marchi have been dismissed (due to lack of evidence).

https://twitter.com/ottovonbisbark/status/1170007513875587072

Tortious Interference claims against Funimation, Rial & Toye have been dismissed (can't prove TI if there were no contracts to begin with). Judge will consider the remaining claims for defamation & conspiracy, and rule within 30 days.

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1170026173394575360

Also important to note that the Judge determined that Vic was a Limited Purpose Public Figure (LPPF), meaning that he has to prove "actual maliace" on to of the other defamation requirements: which in the legal context means he has to prove that Funimation, Rial & Toye knew they were lying when they made the statements, which is already a tall order.

On top of that the judge did not appear to buy into the claim of damages being caused by the defendants (asking how could he be sure the damages weren't caused by all the other comments on the internet), which could see defamation fail on there.

Considering that nobody was expecting the judge to dismiss anything during the hearing, this has been a wild ride.

(re-posted up top for visibility)

All claims dismissed with prejudice

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2019/10/04/anime-voice-actor-vic-mignogna-loses-big-judge-drops-final-claims-dallas-area-studio-colleagues-defamed/

So I guess this means we'll NEVER truly find out if the allegations were true or not...

Shaoken: Also important to note that the Judge determined that Vic was a Limited Purpose Public Figure (LPPF), meaning that he has to prove "actual maliace" on top of the other defamation requirements

Another thing a public figure has to prove (after the "actual malice" standard) is that the defamation hurt their reputation and their finances. Not either/or.

Vic is still getting acting roles and con invites (and his not-insignificant fanbase keeps bragging about how haters lost and his career's bigger than ever) so that's another major hurdle if he tries to appeal.

Not to mention, Vic was never employed (voice actors are contractors) by Funimation or Rooster Teeth. So technically, he's not fired, nor is he entitled to any damages or severance pay after they cut ties.

And since he never had any contracts with cons that cancelled him, he can't prove they were obligated to pay him.

(How do you reply/quote on these posts?)

UPDATE: In the November 21, 2019 Sanctions Hearing (page 99 of transcript), Vic Mignogna claimed to not know his own net worth or how much money he's made this year. How can you prove damage to finances if you don't know your own finances?

https://twitter.com/shane_holmberg/status/1213194848741863429

@Jaded Streak 2 - If you mean a court verdict on Vic's guilt or innocence that was never going to happen, Vic wasn't on trial. However since this case was dismissed under the TCPA the court is basically saying he brought forth a meritless lawsuit to infringe on the defendant's rights, which is as close to saying "the defendant's weren't lying" as legally possible from a civil court. However given the sheer number of people testifying under oath that Vic was a creep, Vic admitted to 95% of the allegations as being true while arguing semantics, and even people testifying to his defense saying he was an egomaniac who abused his fame to obtain sex in shameful ways I'd say the allegations are proven true.

@PS Cold Fire - I have no idea how to quote in here, I'm not sure if that's possible. But yes thanks for expanding on it. I don't think he's actually gotten any roles though, his role in JJBA was something he had been cast for before all this came out and Viz chose not to recast him, but they've also not brought him back for any further dubs.

The biggest problem with appeals for him is that (besides having a fool for a lawyer whose never done any defamation or TI cases in his life, and advised by a fool of a former lawyer - Nick's license expired start of this month and he's yet to review it) he really has no evidence of anything. He can't even begin to prove the statements were false, admitted that the claims by Funi and Jamie were true, and as you stated can't provide any contracts nor proof that the defendants interfered with them. And as this is an appeal he can't bring forth new evidence (not that it stops his fans from saying that he can).

No roles?! THOU FOOL!!!

How could you not know about his awesome leading role in a multi-award winning short film? The screening was so important he had to miss his summons for the initial hearing!

https://www.facebook.com/events/1064054670651806/

Or his awesome leading role alongside Chuck Huber & Todd Haberkorn in Prince Adventures by FantasySoft?!? (a "Christian" company which has no official releases and lost a major sponsor after involving themselves in the controversy)

https://twitter.com/FantasySoftEnt/status/1093453105822351360

https://twitter.com/FantasySoftEnt/status/1154153892642508806

EDIT: He publicly disavowed FantasySoft on an Unlocked livestream (his only involvement was 3 lines recorded 6 years ago). The director zigzagged between playing victim and Tweeting the shutdown of the company (then deleting the Tweets), to doubling down and trying to save face with a poorly-done Japanese dub.

https://twitter.com/FantasySoftEnt/status/1248194572083245057

Or his awesome leading roles in various productions by clout-chasing fans?!?! (which I will not name)

EDIT: He set up an awesome new production company in Texas this year. He'll be getting more awesomer roles than ever now.

https://www.bizapedia.com/tx/requiem-productions-llc.html

Vic's lawyer tried to file an appeal.

• https://twitter.com/Lordking/status/1187467479657762818

• https://twitter.com/shane_holmberg/status/1187472743081467904

The problem? YOU CAN'T APPEAL YET. You're only supposed to do this after the final ruling on attorney's fees and sanctions (mandatory under TCPA). All this has accomplished is wasting more time and money.

Monica & Ron's lawyer has stated as such in a letter to the Judge and already plans to dismiss the appeal.

https://twitter.com/shane_holmberg/status/1187482149580165121

In other news, the hearing for the aforementioned fees & sanctions is scheduled for Nov. 21, 2019 https://twitter.com/shane_holmberg/status/1187473115053359111

UPDATE: Motion to Dismiss the appeal was denied (i.e. the premature appeal will go through anyway)

https://twitter.com/shane_holmberg/status/1205475157114003457

More updates:

Funimation has submitted their request for legal fees and sanctions. They are asking for $168,941 in court fees, $7,504 for misc. fees paid by Funimation, $25,000 in sanctions to discourage Vic from filing more lawsuits (and they cite Ty and Nick talking about how they were less concerned with winning the lawsuit and more concerned with sharing stuff with Nick's audience). They've also put in a conditional request for another $100,000 in fees relating to the appeal.

In other news Vic's second law firm submitted their response to the motion to dispose the Kamehamecon owner and took the time to demand the judge sanction Moncia/Ron's lawyer and force him to pay fines. Their legal reasoning is very shaky to say the least.

Shaoken: More updates:

Funimation has submitted their request for legal fees and sanctions.

We now have fees & sanctions requests from the remaining defendants. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-11-05/funimation-files-motion-to-recover-attorney-fees-for-vic-mignogna-lawsuit/.152977

(amounts listed include attorneys fees, court costs, misc. fees, minimum sanctions and conditional fees related to the appeal)

• Rial & Toye: $487,943
• Marchi: $180,991
• Funimation: $301,445

Running Total: $970,379 USD

He may owe even more to sanctions when he announced his intent to continue suing all his other accusers (in depositions, GFM page and Tweets).

But given that his net worth is $4 million, he didn't spend any of his own money on the lawsuit, and he's already made hundreds of thousands from con appearances this year alone, he'll have no trouble paying all that back.

Perhaps seeing the total number in fees will be enough to get him

In other news, Vic has another lawyer. He's from the same law firm who joined just before the TCPA. Mike Dunford (the law teacher whose Tweet I linked too) suspects that Ty might be de facto fired as the latest filing from Vic's side came from this new lawyer, and Nick was caught off guard by motions that would have been submitted a little while ago: he may no longer be getting anything from Ty.

Ty Beard's been subpoenaed (presumably for sanctions, esp. regarding the notary fraud and faked affidavits). The new lawyer (Michael Martinez) has taken the helm because "a lawyer cannot appear as both witness and advocate in the same proceeding"

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1192564655882997761

https://twitter.com/HaygoodLaw/status/1192668510717132800

https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1191891602912010241

Though IIRC, there were 3 other lawyers from the same firm working on this case for $400/hour each? (according to his not-lawyer Rekieta). Begs the question why none of them have stepped up.

Well they probably know it's a lost cause, but they may as well pocket a paycheck while staying out of the limelight.

TCPA Ruling: https://twitter.com/shane_holmberg/status/1199056549358047235

Vic owes:

• Funimation: $57,504
• Rial & Toye: $115,526.96
• Marchi: $50,011.46
• Sanctions: $15,000 (5k per defending party)

Plus $287,500 should he appeal and lose. And since he's already submitted the Notice of Appeal...

Running Total: $525,542.42‬

Almost half of what they were seeking, but still not a small amount. Hopefully it's enough to make Vic reconsider going through appeals & additional lawsuits, and hopefully it'll put an end to all this drama.

There is speculation the judge drastically cut Rial/Toye and Funimation's bills as further incentive for Vic not to appeal, as their lawyers can cross-appeal that the sanctions and fees were too low. That sounds like a reach for motivation, but it is true that Vic could try an appeal and end up an extra $200,000 off if the Court of Appeals rules that Judge Chupp made a mistake in the fees he awarded.

What do we keep saying? Your Milage May Vary.

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I'd say Edward Elric has been his biggest role so far since Broly really is more of a side character in the Dragon Ball mythos as a whole.

Late comment, but didn't he voice-act Dark Mousy before Ed? *checks imdb* Yeah, he did. Dark Mousy was a pretty big role, too, even though it didn't show on Adult Swim. It's not as big as Edward, but 2nd or 3rd; however, it barely garners a mention on his tropes "about" section. Perhaps we could give it a few more nods?

Dark was a big role in a now-obscure anime/manga that barely had much impact. FMA otoh was a cultural phenomenon that boosted quite a few actors to anime stardom (esp. its main cast).

Edit requests can be made in the Edit Request thread on the FAQS board in the forums.

Quick question now that the page is locked; the page currently says the oldest allegations date back to 2008, but I've personally seen one from 2006 and heard that there are ones dating back to 2003. Do we want to update the page to reflect the oldest date or change it to less specific year.

I second this as well, there was been recent vandalism in the wake of the sexual harassment scandal. I suggest we lock this page to avoid further controversy. And besides, it's very likely his page will not be updated in the near future with any future roles with all the sexual harassment and assault allegations.

https://twitter.com/MichellMcC73/status/1094729435583037440

The oldest-known allegation dates back to 1989. The woman in question (a high-school sophomore at the time) alleges that he invited her to his home to watch a video, and stuck his tongue in her ear. She ran out before it could go any further.

https://twitter.com/SharonB89188965/status/1095393543894503432

Before that, another woman said that he was her 11th grade English teacher, 1986-87. She had no personal negative experiences (he was her favorite teacher). She only heard rumors that he was fired over inappropriate conduct with students.

It was originally placed there because of the controversial matter of these allegations. Then someone recently vandalized the page, the mods have to lock the page due to the controversy. And yes, many of these allegations are ongoing.

I know the allegations are still going on.

I'm watching this shitshow from afar.

The shit show being the flame wars behind the firing.

It took them long enough.

Delete it. Troper Tales is shaky as it is, but real life people aren't even tropes.

Hold for a minute. You mean delete just the Troper Tales page and not the main page, too, right? 'cause we have an entire index full of real people (actors, etc.). Let me fix up those subject-ambiguous pronouns to clarify what I'm suggesting...

It was inevitable I suppose. I have no idea why the dude is such a polarizing person (and whether the rumors are just that, or if there's any truth to them) but this is for the best. Pages like that shouldn't be for complaining about people you don't like.

He's such a polarizing person because he's so outspoken about his Christian faith. After all, Jesus himself said things like that would happen to anyone who followed him. Kinda makes me wonder what kind of vitriol has been spread about his costar Caitlin Glass.

"min-YAN-yah" At least I think that's it. It could also be "mah-DERP-ah-derp"