I think you answered your own question. Azure Waters is published for Honkai Impact 3rd, if nothing hinting at Sin Mal's past is in there, then there is nothing to dig for.
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I just wasn't sure.
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- Car Fu: Right before she fights Kiana one on one, Raven tries to run her over with a cargo truck.
4tell0life4, I do not understand the meaning of your deletion. The CG in chapter 14 before Kiana fights Raven clearly has the latter drive a truck towards Kiana (who is busy fighting other enemies at this point) and get off it before it crashes on Kiana, though Kiana does not seem worse for wear after the collision. The trope definitely applies.
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Oh, I see it now: Kiana sabotages the convoy in one stage and Raven tries to hit her with the truck in the stage after that one.
I'm sorry, then.
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PHO English explicitly spells Welt's surname as Yang. Does that mean that the case of Spell My Name With An S for "Young / Yang" is the other way around?
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It's probably a case of them correcting themselves like what happened with Cocolia's name
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I thought this has been asked before, but just in case: is "Anti Entropy = Schicksal NA" a spoiler or not?
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I don't think it should be, but that depends on whether or not it's a major plot point at the end of AE's visual novel. That said, the fact that it's plainly stated on Edison's Stigmata set description tells me it shouldn't be.
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I kinda recall that it was revealed in ch. 4, back when the group itself starts becoming prominent, so maybe?
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Let's see... For Welt, there are 3 characters who bear the name throughout the series.
- 1) Walter / Joachim, the current one.
- 2) Welt Joyce, the first one.
- 3) The two Welt clones faced in the AE Invasion and Moon Shadow comics.
Should I add them to the Leadership section of AE?
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I get the feeling that Welt Joyce should be put in the Herrschers section to separate him from Welt Young.
As for the clones: are they really considered leaders, even "decoy" ones? Either way, the clones should be in a separate folder.
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I disagree with putting Joyce in the Herrschers section.
The clones can be put under Other Major Members like Cocolia.
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I thought Joyce wasn't a member of Anti-Entropy? It was founded after his death. Welt II became its leader.
That's why I'm thinking of putting Joyce in Herrschers.
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Soon, World Serpent is to be included in this page, Gray Serpent will have to be moved here, with the potential additions of Raven and Jackal. Also, with Chapter 12's whammy, Kevin Kaslana will be on the Leadership folder with a redirect to Historical Characters.
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I still don't understand the new organization thingy though. Do we really need for the corresponding comic to be translated first?
Digress: Siegfried and Ryoma (Mei's dad) are confirmed to be in that comic.
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I'm starting to think that World Serpent now has enough entries to split Human Organizations into 3 subages: Schicksal, Anti-Entropy and World Serpent. Thoughts?
The following characters are affiliated to WS in one way or another: Kevin Kaslana (leadership), Jackal, Raven, Gray Serpent, Stan (Honkai experiment), Director Catherine (informant, later captured by Schicksal).
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I kinda think I want to wait for Jackal's infos before we can start splitting.
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To be honest, I'm kind of iffy about adding manga-only characters... Back then I'd only put characters that appear in the game, even if only as Stigmata.
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To counterargue your point, Honkai Impact 3rd has the prerequisites for gaining a franchise page, given it has at least three different media that can easily be elaborated upon.
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I only know of the game, the manga and the VN, and the latter is hard to access.
But back to the point: are we needing a separate page for manga-exclusive characters, or not?
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Other pages have them, I don’t see why this one shouldn’t. That said, I haven’t read any of them (yet) so I won’t be any help.
^ are you saying we can make one? Good then.
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Should a folder about the Captain go here or on the Other NPCs page?
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I'm kinda iffy on adding Captain in the first place, but "Other NP Cs" isn't really the right fit.
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They're a prominent enough figure in the events and the bridge interactions with the Valkyries that I think they deserve an entry, I'm just not sure what tropes would be applicable. I'm more inclined to put the folder here if/when it comes together.
The captain is officially part of Schicksal, so... yeah.
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- No-Nonsense Nemesis: He won't let anyone who have potential to go beyond his control alive, as Siegfried and Fu Hua can attest to.
I'd argue that this fits Shoot the Dangerous Minion more, but I'd like opinions.
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Anyone else (if any)?
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Should I add an info for Sin Mal's Dark and Troubled Past?
Thing is, her backstory was only made clear in GGZ. While at least a part of the Azure Waters comic does happen in that world, they never confirm whether what happened to her also happened in HI 3. And especially, we don't know if Bronya here did what she did in GGZ; the comic implies that she only gets to know Sin Mal after joining the orphanage while in GGZ the two have met each other before that.
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