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43110 (Striking Back)
13th Dec, 2020 12:51:44 PM

Thank you for re-adding j. We did indeed discuss this example and deem her a keep. I don't want to assume bad faith on the other user's part but they've unilaterally edited her character page as though trying to paint the character in a "bad" light. Not helping is the fact they never leave edit reasons, so there's no real line of communication and they aren't joining us on the MB thread despite the addition of the entry and your later re-addition both linked to it. Maybe send them a PM as a final measure but if they don't respond let's just keep our eyes peeled to make sure they don't start an edit war or keep "negative troping" the character that I haven't heard anyone else have the same issues with.

jjjj2 Since: Jul, 2015
14th Dec, 2020 07:01:02 AM

Okay they're still Single Issue Wonking, this time on YMMV.Fate Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works changing this:

Caster. This time the root of the dissatisfaction came not only from visual novel readers but also casual viewers, all of whom feel the show gives viewers a rather one-dimensional portrayal of her and leaves out a lot of the deeper layers to her character found in the VN.

To this:

Caster. This time the root of the dissatisfaction came not only from visual novel readers but also casual viewers, all of whom feel the show gives viewers a rather one-dimensional portrayal of her and how she come across as nothing more then a hollow and redundant plot device impersonating a character.

That last part seems like very blatant complaining.

Edited by jjjj2 You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the mid
Riley1sCool Since: Dec, 2014
14th Dec, 2020 07:54:04 AM

Yeah, it seems like they're not gonna let up on this one. Not sure what should be done but something probably should if they're dedicating this much time and effort to bashing the character.

43110 (Striking Back)
14th Dec, 2020 09:03:26 AM

No response to the PM I take it j? This is just getting annoying.

Riley1sCool Since: Dec, 2014
14th Dec, 2020 11:58:35 AM

After looking over the YMMV page for UBW and its history, I... don't think Caster is their only problem. They removed Better on DVD, added a bashy and bloated (As in, multiple indentations bloated, with nonstop bashing and mischaracterization) Base-Breaking Character entry for Taiga, deleted a Fanfic Fuel entry, added a Base-Breaking Character entry for Rin that is again just nonstop bashing, and in general has made the page a mess, all with no edit reasons, removed positivity in the One-Scene Wonder entry, added a "subverted" statement on Win Back the Crowd which talks about how Zero fans weren't satisfied, meaning the entry says the opposite of what it originally said. (When YMMV tropes can't be played with and it's just bashing.) Also, looking back through the page history, they removed the other side of the argument on Caster's Base-Breaking Character entry, which explained why people like her, like a BBC entry is supposed to do.

This is a bigger problem than we may have thought. It seems they may just have a problem with UBW or maybe F/SN as a whole.

Edited by Riley1sCool
Spidey Since: Sep, 2020
14th Dec, 2020 12:03:36 PM

^That and the fact that they aren't responding to the PM's is really not ok. Should we link them to this thread?

"Unite GUN/BAZOOKA/LAUNCHER/TANK!"
43110 (Striking Back)
14th Dec, 2020 12:15:10 PM

PM'd them a link. Not sure if they'll take me up on the offer but that's about all I can do.

Spidey Since: Sep, 2020
papyru30 Since: Aug, 2016
14th Dec, 2020 12:27:27 PM

This person definitely has a Single-Issue Wonk regarding the series as most of their edits are FSN related and the ones I've seen have been pretty mean spirited.

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miraculous (Apprentice)
14th Dec, 2020 12:45:13 PM

They seem to have a very weird hatred for rin and castor going off their edits. Removing anything positive and painting them in the worst possible light.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Awesomekid42 Since: Jul, 2012
14th Dec, 2020 12:49:02 PM

This person also seems to have a vendetta against anyone who don't like Saber based off his edits on Video Games where they removes the section stating people's issues with her.

Spidey Since: Sep, 2020
14th Dec, 2020 01:50:37 PM

Are they doing this with other trope pages? (Other than the one mentioned above)

"Unite GUN/BAZOOKA/LAUNCHER/TANK!"
miraculous (Apprentice)
14th Dec, 2020 02:13:24 PM

Yeah check out Video Games for just one. Were they removed and entry on shirou to replace it with bashing rin for being a Tsundere I guess. Not even sure Thats even an example of that trope either.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
15th Dec, 2020 01:00:54 AM

Suspended them, their edits need cleanup.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
miraculous (Apprentice)
15th Dec, 2020 02:53:38 AM

Guys some help with reverting and cleaning everything. They hit a lot of stuff

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
43110 (Striking Back)
15th Dec, 2020 07:00:28 AM

Ah, fuck, time for the fun part of restoring all the shit that got ruined!

Thanks Septimus!

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