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Pichu-kun Since: Jan, 2001
23rd Mar, 2018 09:29:06 AM

No, "seme" and "uke" apply to yuri as well. Some people use "tachi" and "neko", iirc, but that's not widespread.

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014
23rd Mar, 2018 09:50:23 AM

Even so, it’s still not appropriate; I say cut it.

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AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
23rd Mar, 2018 02:35:54 PM

Cut! Cut! CUT! Also even if its unisex Uke and Seme are terrible terms.

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jameygamer Since: May, 2014
23rd Mar, 2018 08:17:20 PM

Notwithstanding the fact that those are ZeroContextExamples, is Fanon a legit namespace on Tropes? I've never seen that.

Pichu-kun Since: Jan, 2001
23rd Mar, 2018 08:29:32 PM

^ Yes, Numerous fandoms have their own fanon pages. Fanon.Naruto, Fanon.Pokemon, Fanon.Harry Potter, etc.

23rd Mar, 2018 08:45:25 PM

According to the Namespace Index, there are forty five pages with the "Fanon" namespace, so I'd imagine it is.

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
23rd Mar, 2018 09:43:43 PM

Considering those are basically exclusively porn tropes I'd say it violates our rules against troping porn a bit.

Pichu-kun Since: Jan, 2001
24th Mar, 2018 07:40:48 AM

^ Uke and seme? I wouldn't say they're exclusively NSFW. They appear in SFW material. It's their personality and demeanor that makes a character fit each archetype, not whether we actually see them fitting it.

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24th Mar, 2018 08:04:02 AM

They're Zero Context Examples, and while one can argue that the tropes themselves aren't NSFW, these particular examples are exclusively referring to NSFW fan works. Zap 'em.

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Pichu-kun Since: Jan, 2001
24th Mar, 2018 08:31:05 AM

I could have sworn they were already removed, but they weren't so I removed them from the page.

Xtifr Since: Jan, 2001
24th Mar, 2018 11:02:40 AM

Fanon is for things that are widely accepted as being part of work itself (despite the lack of any Word of God). Not for stuff found in fan-fic. A lot more of the examples there don't seem to fit—that was just a particularly noticable one.

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Pichu-kun Since: Jan, 2001
25th Mar, 2018 12:06:41 PM

^ The fanon pages often discuss things common in fan-works. I'm not sure if it's tropes being flexible or just incorrect troping. Would there be a better trope for such stuff?

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012
25th Mar, 2018 01:35:19 PM

^no, I think that's also accurate. The best examples I can think of are names: in Pitch Perfect, Chloe's shower guy wasn't named but it became generally accepted that he is called Tom, and so fanworks use that name for him. Or in ATLA, one of Aang and Katara's speculative sons was pretty much decided on to be called Bumi, from appearing in a few fanfics and then pervading the community (and it then became canon in LOK).

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Xtifr Since: Jan, 2001
26th Mar, 2018 01:58:06 AM

Yes, Fanon often appears in fanfic—but things that often appear in fanfic aren't necessarily fanon. That's getting the causality backwards. Lots of fic has Kirk and Spock as lovers, but even people who enjoy those stories don't generally think that's actually part of the show.

It's true that the line can be fuzzy at times. But other times, it's crystal clear. :)

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