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1a. You can't put Author Existence Failure on the main trope page for a musical group because it's Trivia. You can, however, put it on the Trivia subpage.
1b. Out-of-universe, that sounds like a Trivia too, at best. Rule of thumb, if it happened for a movie or a TV show, would you want to list it?
1c. I'd go with the same rule of thumb: if it happened to the director of a movie or an actor in a TV show, would it still be trope-worthy?
Production issues in general are the sort of thing we often label as Trivia.
2. Tropes like Jerkass are only going to be relevant insofar as they apply to the musician's on-stage persona. If it's part of the performance—like what do we call it when they talk to the audience between songs while the band tunes their instruments? Do We Have That One?—then it's In-Universe and it'll be fine.
Edited by troacctid Rhymes with "Protracted."
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A couple of questions about musician pages.
I know that the policy has been changed that things that happen offstage or that aren't a part of lyrics or promotional videos are no longer allowed on band or musician pages. I'm not trying to challenge that policy, so please don't take this as trying to start a fight over it or chip away at it., but I do have a couple of questions...
1) If something happens offstage has a direct impact on performing, is it allowable to mention? I'll list one clear-cut example and two more gray ones for this.
The first actual example: one of the two primary creative members of a band dies (Munetaka Higuchi of Loudness, for this example). Is it OK to list Author Existence Failure as a trope applying to the band in a case where the dead member was a founding member, lyricist, and played a vital role? Obviously he didn't die onstage or in a performance, but it happened, and made some major changes to performances and more.
As another actual example, at least two bands I can think of have been subject to a Frivolous Lawsuit over their name, and therefore had to change their names slightly (X to X Japan and Versailles to Versailles Philharmonic Quartet. Both suits were definitely that trope. Is it okay, in that case, to list Frivolous Lawsuit as a trope applying to the musicians?
As a hypothetical (and far more gray since it could be seen as libelous) example: a member leaves a band mid-tour due to an arrest or to go to rehab. The tour gets canceled (which is definitely an impact on performance if there ever was one). Would Off the Wagon be all right to include in the page?
2) Are interviews and documented statements allowed? As in, for example, I know that we don't want people calling, say, Justin Bieber a Jerkass, but let's say there's someone who did a published interview and was like "Man, I was really an asshole." Is it allowable in *that* instance to list Jerkass with a link to the person himself saying he was one?
This question's wondering if there's an "In-Universe" equivalent on musicians that would allow for some things about them as people IF they are invoked by the musician himself or herself (and could therefore arguably be seen as part of performance, because in Visual Kei, for example, interviews ARE part of performing)