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resolved ZCE on Mario's Tanooki suit in the 2023 SMB Movie Western Animation
So, when the official trailer for The Super Mario Bros. Movie came out, I put the Tanooki suit entry under ZCE at the Heartwarming subpage because we don't know the full context of Mario wearing yet, despite the claim of doing to so to save Luigi. Scarlet Jersey removed the ZCE, so would it count as edit warring if I put it back under ZCE?
Edited by eagle108resolved Does Total Drama need a short term cleanup? Western Animation
I notice the Total Drama pages often get packed up with shoehorns (so much misuse of counterpart tropes), rumors-as-fact (i.e. "X was intended to be the main antagonist but it got cut short"), and generally dubious info. I'd like some help cleaning it up cuz I want more input from other fans beyond my social circle and personal experience.
As much as I worry about my shifting interests, I do think having a short term cleanup would be beneficial because there's so many character subpages.
resolved Inconsistent examples Western Animation
I'm concerned about some of the edits on Legends of Oz: Dorothy's Return by Sovs. Some examples are written correctly, while others have words and trope names written in all lowercase, insufficient context, and a few spelling and grammar issues. What is the best way to handle this?
Edited by DrNoPumaresolved recap index problem Western Animation
I have been trying to fix the indexing problem regarding the recap pages for The Emperor's New School. No matter what I do though, the recap doesn't show up on the index list for the episodes, despite the index detail being on the page. It seems to only be happening for this recap too for some reason. What could be going wrong?
resolved Expy subtrope character limit Question Western Animation
I know that Expy is limited to only be of one character. My question is does this limit also apply to expy subtropes, mainly the more specific subtropes like Superman Substitute and Spider-Man Send-Up.
A good example would be Western Animation/Invincible, where the titular character has a mixture of both tropes. Although hes more Superboy than Superman, he is still a Flying Brick with an origin as a human/alien hyrbid and The Paragon characteristics. But he also has similarities to Spidey, in having secret identity problems specifically romance problems, juggling hero life and normal teenage life, as well as the whole With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility.
So is there is a limit to the subtropes similar to the main Expy trope and if yes then which trope would take priority in an example like this?
Edited by Nejiiuynresolved Should we add a page for the Neverending Story cartoon? Western Animation
Whilst the Neverending Story is best known for its original novel format and the 80s film adaptation, there was a late 90s/early 2000s animated series called, simply "The Neverending Story" - although one source I've found names it "The Neverending Story: The Animated Adventures of Bastian Balthazar Bux". As the question title asks, should we add a The Never Ending Story page to cover tropes unique to the animaed depiction of Fantastia?
resolved I'm not sure about these edits. Western Animation
So on Star Wars: The Clone Wars Tempest Fury has added some edits I'm not sure about. They look like they're trying to make the Jedi Council & Order look better retroactively. Can I get a vote on whether to keep these edits or cut them?
resolved recap page not being made Western Animation
I've been working on making recap pages for episodes of The Emperor's New School. However, when I make one for The Emperors New School S 1 E 20 The Yzma The Stole Kuzcoween Monster Masquerade, it doesn't appear even after I hit save. the link becomes blue on the recap home, but the page itself says the article doesn't exist. Anybody else having this problem?
resolved TearJerker on Spongebob Western Animation
TearJerker.Sponge Bob Square Pants currently has a meta section, when Tear Jerker is No Real Life Examples, Please!. I previously removed real life examples from the page, but these seem to be added by different people than the original posts.
resolved The Ugly Barnacle Western Animation
Since The Ugly Barnacle page is based on a joke from SpongeBob SquarePants, should it be in the Just for Fun namespace?
On December 18th, 2022, I added a "The Reason You Suck" Speech entry for the Rick and Morty episode "Ricktional Mortpoons Rickmas Mortcation".
- "The Reason You Suck" Speech: When Rick tries to leave after making the driller once Morty makes clear he doesn't want Rick coming with him to get the Lightsaber, Morty gets pissed at the idea Rick is acting like Morty betrayed him and not the other way around. Rick, thoroughly done with listening to Morty and wanting to just go back to hunting down Rick Prime, delivers a quick but succinct tear down of Morty, both for the events of the last episode, and his general treatment of Rick overall the last few seasons, with Morty treating him like shit despite Rick bothering to open up to him. Morty himself can only wince and look upset while he's listening up until Curtis reassures him he won't kill his family.
Rick: You wanna know why I replaced myself in the beginning of that stupid Knights of the Sun thing? I said don't take the fucking sword and you were like "whatever" like I'm our neighbor Gene or David Arquette or something. You called me boring. I've become dog shit to you. That's what happens when you let people in and they stop respecting you, they touch your shit, they screw things up, they kill your fucking family. Go ahead. Trust [Curtis]. You're going to learn the same fucking thing.
On December 20th, 2022, however, Mantyf removed the entry, with this as their edit reason:- 1. It's not presented as the way the edit reason states, namely since Rick had been keeping Morty out of his hunt for Rick Prime rather than forcing him to help, and Morty was acting like Rick was entirely at fault for not being honest. While an argument can be made for Unintentionally Unsympathetic, the fact of the matter is that it's not presented in the manner the edit reason suggests.
- 2. "The Reason You Suck" Speech is not a YMMV trope, meaning even if Mantyf does not see it as a speech but more a rant from an abuser, the trope itself is what matters. So if the entry is an actual case of "The Reason You Suck" Speech as presented in the show itself, removing it based on an interpretation feels like a mistake.
Rather than simply re-add it to the recap page which would incite an Edit War, and as I'm not sure whether or not there is a Clean Up page for "The Reason You Suck" Speech examples, I figured it best to bring the matter to ATT. I should also note that this is not an isolated incident from Mantyf, as another recap page, for the episode "Analyze Piss", saw them add two entries that feel like agenda based editing, namely adding tropes that cast Rick in an even worse light than he already is while exonerating those against Rick, Morty in the former episode and Jerry in the latter, even when the narrative is clearly depicting them in the wrong and Rick, even if not in the right, as the actual case of Jerkass Has a Point. Edited by RebelFalcon