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Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#3576: Feb 10th 2016 at 3:03:26 PM

Well, X doesn't have subspecies as a rule, so that might be why.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#3577: Feb 10th 2016 at 3:35:30 PM

[up]Really? Because I don't think the Raging Brachydios is really a subspecies; it's more of a variant, like the Furious Rajang and the Savage Deviljho (both of which are present in X, according to the wiki).

edited 10th Feb '16 3:37:28 PM by dragonfire5000

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#3578: Feb 10th 2016 at 3:47:57 PM

Savage and furious kinda get special privileges since they were originally a type of rare species. In furious/golden's debut (MHFU) it had no special name and was only hinted at being different from its quest description. The same can be said of savage as far as I recall. Hence why they were allowed into cross (aside from popularity).

What is surprising however is that silver and gold rath were reclassified to rare species (which they are not) so that they could be included, which I found to be both strange and unnecessary.

Raging brachy is currently classified as a subspecies (variants did not exist in 4U and he did not receive rare species treatment) and therefore was barred entry to cross. Although I'm sure that, with a few move upgrades, you could totally call raging a variant (since he seems a lot more like a variant than a subspecies anyways).

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#3579: Feb 10th 2016 at 4:01:17 PM

I'm pretty sure that Raging Brachydios is considered a variant, due to the game not ever explicitly calling it by "Raging Brachydios" despite giving it its own unique icon.

Also, it's listed as a variant on the wiki.

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#3580: Feb 10th 2016 at 4:12:43 PM

[up]Huh. I totally stand corrected. Guess there was a reason he seemed like a variant to me.

Perhaps he didn't end up in cross due to his similarity to the incinerating dinovaldo?

As a side note I guess we've stopped using the term "rare species" since cross came out. Rare species were a tad different than variants, but they all ended up on that variant list anyways. Strange, but oh well.

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#3581: Feb 10th 2016 at 4:17:18 PM

Upon further investigation, it seems that the rare species classification has been changed entirely to include what used to be subspecies, and the variant classification now covers the old rare species. At least that's what Kogath's wiki says.

Examples: silver rath: subspecies -> rare species Savage Dev: rare species -> variant

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#3582: Feb 10th 2016 at 4:24:52 PM

Not including Raging Brachydios due to the Incinerating Blade Dinovaldo already being in makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if someone thought that two exploding Brute Wyverns in the same game was a bit much.

Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#3583: Feb 10th 2016 at 4:37:30 PM

My only question is as such: Will the Gear REX from Metal Gear make an actual appearance in the series?

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#3584: Feb 10th 2016 at 4:40:04 PM

I mean there is evidence suggesting that metal gear and monster hunter take place in the same universe, soo...

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#3585: Feb 10th 2016 at 5:52:07 PM

It'd be awesome as hell if Gear REX was added. Though I feel that they might rename it if they do.

Another idea as to why Raging Brachydios isn't in X: Imagine a hunt that has both Raging Brachydios and Incinerating Blade Dinovaldo in it.

From what I've seen, Unstable hunting grounds are a thing in Cross, the special named monsters aren't given the Elder Dragon treatment of no other large monsters appearing in their zones, and I've had subspecies/rare species/variants wander in while I'm hunting another one, for example during a Raging Brachydios hunt a Savage Deviljho wandered in.

edited 10th Feb '16 5:55:54 PM by BlackSunNocturne

SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#3586: Feb 10th 2016 at 5:58:25 PM

So by now, I'm going to assume that if we ever get X, it'll be an Ultimate version. Of course, since there's been no word of an Ultimate version, it's hard to say.

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#3587: Feb 10th 2016 at 5:59:10 PM

Isn't the lack of word of an Ultimate version because X isn't even out in Japan yet? [lol]

edited 10th Feb '16 5:59:28 PM by BlackSunNocturne

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#3588: Feb 10th 2016 at 6:10:55 PM

[up][up][up]Wait, how can a Savage Deviljho wander into a Raging Brachydios hunt? Raging Brachydios, if I recall correctly, can only be fought at Ingle Isle, where Deviljhos do not appear. Or is this only in a special quest?

Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#3589: Feb 10th 2016 at 6:13:28 PM

[up][up]Dude, X has been out for a few months now.

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#3590: Feb 10th 2016 at 6:26:57 PM

[up]Ignore my comment then, I only really keep up with when the games are being released outside of Japan.

[up][up]I forget if it was a special quest (I don't believe so) but me and one of my friends were in Skype playing 4U and we heard the noise letting us know another monster wandered in. I looked down at my 3DS's screen (I was the only gunner) and saw the Savage Deviljho's icon.

Though I might be remembering wrong, and combining something else.

Also I just checked Ingle Isle's page on the Wiki:

Incinerating Blade Dinovaldo is indeed found there in X, so my thought of one potentially wandering in on the hunt of the other seems even more likely as to why Raging Brachydios isn't in X.

edited 10th Feb '16 6:28:13 PM by BlackSunNocturne

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#3591: Feb 10th 2016 at 6:32:30 PM

[up]Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's impossible for the Ingle Isle to be an unstable environment in 4 Ultimate. There should be no way for a Savage Deviljho to hijack a Raging Brachydios hunt.

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#3592: Feb 10th 2016 at 6:57:31 PM

Yeah, I just asked one of my friends who was with me on that hunt.

I combined the Raging Brachydios hunt with a different hunt entirely in my memory. My bad [lol]

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#3593: Feb 11th 2016 at 4:13:11 AM

daimyo hermitaur down. i think i'll leave the double tigrex advanced quest till later.

what happened to the magaru shagala quest? it disappeared. i was sure they were offering to let me do it again after i finishe it the first time

Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#3594: Feb 11th 2016 at 4:14:50 AM

It's an Advanced Quest

the only difference between normal and advanced quests are that advanced quests only appear at random after you complete them

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#3595: Feb 11th 2016 at 6:07:33 AM

[up]Yeah, that quest cycle thing was always kinda annoying. Good thing it was removed in crosss, so no more abandoning gathering quests to get the one you want.

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Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#3596: Feb 15th 2016 at 6:45:43 PM

So I just got to 7* Village in 3U, which means I unlocked the double HR Volvidon quest.

I now remember vividly why I think they're the most adorable monster in the game.

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#3597: Feb 16th 2016 at 12:58:51 AM

its a toss up for me, between them and lagombi.

but they're definitely got the best palico headgear in mh4u

edited 16th Feb '16 12:59:26 AM by Tarsen

SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#3598: Feb 16th 2016 at 8:56:01 AM

-points to icon- Kechas are pretty cute too.

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#3599: Feb 16th 2016 at 8:57:00 AM

i love the kecha so much

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SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#3600: Feb 16th 2016 at 9:00:17 AM

Come to think of it, I still haven't finished 4U's postgame story despite the ridiculous amount of hours I've sunk into the game.

I've been playing on-and-off since the summer, and right now it's an off period. I'll get back to it eventually, probably after I finish Xenoblade X.


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