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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#69601: Aug 22nd 2017 at 1:57:13 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]I guess part of it is comparison.

Like, SOV's characters are all pretty subdued compared to the past two games, so none of them stand out as "extra-bland" except maybe Lukas. In Fates, meanwhile, the relatively normal royal siblings exist in the same setting as folks like Arthur, Odin, Niles, Setsuna, Izana, and all those other flamboyant, gimmicky personalities, and as such can't help but come across as terribly boring in comparison.

Though I feel like even in a vacuum, the Fates royals just aren't as well-written as other "subdued" characters such as Awakening's main characters and most of SOV's entire cast. I think it's just a consequence of Fates' bad writing and uninspired translation of said writing.

edited 22nd Aug '17 1:58:04 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#69602: Aug 22nd 2017 at 1:57:56 PM

Her supports are a lot better than how she is in the story, as is the case for pretty much every Fates character.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#69603: Aug 22nd 2017 at 1:58:51 PM

[up][up] Pls reconnect Ryback's head from his body. D:

Mileena Madness
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#69604: Aug 22nd 2017 at 2:08:00 PM

I've always found that, for playable characters in any game except maybe Echoes, the greatest parts of their characterization come from their supports with each other. The supports for Echoes never really struck a chord with me like the supports of Awakening and Fates, though even their characters' characterizations seemed more fleshed out in "village conversations" than in the actual main story.

Of all the Fire Emblem games I've played, I don't think I've ever really played a game where the characters were better in the main story than they were in the supports.

On another subject, I probably brought it up before, but I always wondered what the general reaction was when Marth and his army ran into Pyrathi and basically committed regicide (in self-defense, mind you). I still like to think that the general reaction was "Eh, it's Pyrathi, who cares?" I kind of hope Pyrathi will be a stage in Warriors so that we can actually see the ruins, though the chances of it actually appearing in Warriors is probably next to nil.

edited 22nd Aug '17 2:09:21 PM by dragonfire5000

IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#69605: Aug 22nd 2017 at 2:20:09 PM

Camilla, sorry. That was an auto correct. I do agree the strongest characterization in So V is in the base conversations that only Alm or Celica are privy to.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#69606: Aug 22nd 2017 at 2:24:43 PM

Speaking of Echoes, I kind of want a crossover between Echoes and Fates if only to see what would happen if Anankos was the one whispering in Berkut's ears.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#69607: Aug 22nd 2017 at 2:28:19 PM

Anankos doesn't whisper though. He'd rupture Berkut's eardrums with his "I AM THE FORGOTTEN GOD" bullshit.

[up][up][up][up]Only if you reconnect the controller.

edited 22nd Aug '17 2:29:15 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#69608: Aug 22nd 2017 at 2:29:31 PM

[up]I of course mean the bit where he preys upon your insecurity until he has enough control over you to throw you off the nearest cliff so he can use your corpse as his slave. Though I wonder...since Berkut rides a horse and we know Anankos has possessed horse-riders before, does the dragon make the horse throw itself to its death as well just so his new puppet can have a proper undead mount?

Also, now that I think about it, if you're looking for a group to take down an evil dragon, getting the heroes of Shadow Dragon, Awakening, and Fates makes sense. Though since the Awakening heroes take down a country-sized abomination that's almost unkillable and the Fates heroes take down an insane god-dragon capable of feats beyond almost anything any dragon in the franchise has ever shown, the Shadow Dragon heroes beating up what is essentially a racist grandpa dragon seems a bit...underwhelming.

edited 22nd Aug '17 2:35:06 PM by dragonfire5000

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#69609: Aug 22nd 2017 at 4:54:40 PM

Gameplay of Hinoka, Takumi, and Camilla.

erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
#69610: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:11:21 PM

Hinoka might be my main.

As much as I dislike Camilla, her combos are pretty sick.

Takumi's look a little awkward, but that's expected of a bow.

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#69611: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:28:36 PM

Camilla looks amazing. Coolest character thus far. Takumi is great as well. Hinoka becomes a helicopter, and that's all I ask of her.

edited 22nd Aug '17 5:31:04 PM by Sterok

SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#69612: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:35:36 PM

They're using the helicopter thing? Nice.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#69613: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:58:40 PM

Correction on the voice actor strike: Nintendo isn't one of the companies targeted for the strike. Union members are still allowed to do voice work. And I think FE dubs are usually non-union so.... Warriors' voice acting is hot garbage for other reasons. lol

As for the gameplay vid, can they please shorten animation time of the special attacks so it won't take like 10 years to finish? Thanks

edited 22nd Aug '17 6:02:42 PM by NoName999

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#69614: Aug 22nd 2017 at 6:37:27 PM

This might sound harsh, but I often have really mixed feelings on stuff like actors' strikes. Everyone deserves good working conditions, of course, but there's a part of me that wants to say something like "You know, some people are forced to mine until they drop by terrorists for no pay. Count your blessings and suck it up."

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#69615: Aug 22nd 2017 at 6:57:40 PM

Yeah that's a terrible attitude to take. There are varying degrees of awful working conditions, just because it can be worse does not mean there are no problems that need change.

edited 22nd Aug '17 6:58:04 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#69616: Aug 22nd 2017 at 6:59:16 PM

Yeah, I admit it's a messed up attitude. Like I said it's not all of me that thinks this; there's just this little nagging voice in my head that always whispers "Appeal to Worse Problems" in my ear...

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#69617: Aug 22nd 2017 at 7:37:00 PM

You know how your voice gets hoarse and your throat could sore from screaming?

Imagine screaming, grunting, yelping, etc for hours on end in which it can get so bad you could end up vomiting or coughing up blood? And of course possibly losing your voice which could take a long time to recover (in which you're not getting paid) or permanent.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#69618: Aug 22nd 2017 at 7:40:16 PM

[up] It's that bad? Geez; point conceded.

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#69619: Aug 22nd 2017 at 8:27:24 PM

Not sure if Laura, Paula, and Buttercup would come back to dub this even if there wasn't a strike.

Mileena Madness
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#69620: Aug 22nd 2017 at 8:30:45 PM

Who's Buttercup?

I think Laura Bailey did provide lines for Lucina and Palla in Heroes (albeit she's uncredited), so I'm not sure if she's totally against coming back.

edited 22nd Aug '17 8:30:59 PM by Karxrida

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
#69621: Aug 22nd 2017 at 8:32:35 PM

Elizabeth Daily.

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#69622: Aug 23rd 2017 at 8:01:28 AM

Made it to the part 3 map with the Crimean Knights.

The Kauku Caves map was a huge boon to my laguz as Lethe, Lyre, and Kyza all gained strike ranks and I took down Septimus by having Lyre kick him to death.

Before promotion, Rhys has hit almost all of his uninspiring caps, and Mist managed to do much the same.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#69623: Aug 23rd 2017 at 8:13:24 AM

Who are you using from the Knights? Apart from Astrid, I mean.

Song of the Sirens
Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
Editor of Posts
#69624: Aug 23rd 2017 at 9:07:28 AM

If you use stat boosting items in Echoes before promoting, will the stat bonus still apply afterwards or will the promotion gains override it?

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#69625: Aug 23rd 2017 at 9:29:30 AM

I think the stat boosts from promotion treat the stats of the unit as they are, it doesn't matter if they gained stats through the foods or the springs. If the speed is >= what its base would be at promotion, then the stat won't get any gains.


Finished Part 3 of RD. I honestly did not see Zelgius being the Black Knight, though I can kinda see some similarities. Also the whole Yune and Micaiah thing threw me off. I figured the woman from the opening was Ashera, but her turning out to be the villain was a nice twist. It was also nice to have context for the cutscene with Ike and the stone soldiers, since I'd seen that before a while back

The last few chapters of part 3 weren't too bad, though I did spend nearly all of my BEXP to bring the units in the DB I was using up to level 10(or in Aran's case 8). Definitely helped out, since I don't think things would've been as smooth otherwise, though Zihark and Jill did almost die from being ganged up on by tigers. Ignoring Meg, Leo, and Fiona kind of turned them into baggage though. All unpromoted, all made of paper at this point in the game.

Also I can't believe IS found a way to make that bridge map more terrible with those impassable walls that take AGES to go away. Made worse by the fact that Sigrun and Tanith are just terrible, though Sigrun is a bit better after promotion. The Crimean Knights have also fallen behind in terms of level, in retrospect I probably should've taken Paragon from Geoffrey(who ended up becoming a level 2 Silver Knight) and given it to Marcia or Kieran. Danved/Devdan and Astrid feel basically unsalvagable, and Makalov is about as meh as ever.

edited 23rd Aug '17 9:32:01 AM by strawberryflavored


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