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KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#59576: Aug 1st 2016 at 5:01:47 PM

Verifying that too. In my Conquest file, I specifically checked Dwyer because I was curious if it did pass down. The option was open to him.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#59577: Aug 1st 2016 at 5:02:57 PM

So wait, is there actually artwork of what Garon looked like in his young adult phase?

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#59578: Aug 1st 2016 at 5:13:20 PM

No but I've seen art of Xander imagined as Garon.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#59579: Aug 1st 2016 at 8:01:35 PM

Honestly, speaking of crazy dragons: That's the thing I consider pathetic about Fire Emblem.

You should either have the majestic, powerful intelligent dragons, or the "really powerful animals" ones. Not the former turning into the latter unless they use a magic stone to take humanoid form.

Eh, maybe they could break from series conventions, but I'd never say it was an "either/or" sort of thing. That always struck me as rather limiting.

edited 1st Aug '16 8:01:58 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#59580: Aug 1st 2016 at 8:10:20 PM

So apparently a new Tellius art book was released, and it contained, among other things, a list of all the characters' ages. Laguz ages are converted to relative Beorc years by the way. Among others things, it reveals that Deghinsea is only middle-aged in Dragon years, and Nasir not even that! Think about that for a second!

edited 1st Aug '16 8:12:19 PM by HamburgerTime

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#59581: Aug 1st 2016 at 8:14:54 PM

Titania's a smidge older than expected but not really any big shocks in there.

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#59582: Aug 1st 2016 at 8:28:48 PM

Eh, maybe they could break from series conventions, but I'd never say it was an "either/or" sort of thing. That always struck me as rather limiting.
I prefer it if there's one or the other (hell, a series can have both) but having one turn into the other is mind-bogglingly stupid.

Like, with how the Fire Emblem-verse dragons work, they should all be extinct due to that massive issue.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#59583: Aug 1st 2016 at 8:29:17 PM

Sephiran is so dang young for the second oldest character . Still looks the same 1200 years later.

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#59584: Aug 1st 2016 at 8:49:03 PM

Ranulf is older than Mordecai. By quite a bit, apparently.

That can't possibly be true. He could maybe pass for Mordecai's son if he wanted to.

Maybe it's a Tiger thing.

Also Bastian is a lot younger than I was expecting.

edited 1st Aug '16 8:50:42 PM by asterism

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#59585: Aug 1st 2016 at 8:55:45 PM

[up] It's relative Beorc years, remember. Cats may just age faster than Tigers.

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#59586: Aug 1st 2016 at 9:42:32 PM

Titania's a smidge older than expected but not really any big shocks in there.

I'm not really surprised because I figured Titania was in the late 20-early to mid 30s range anyway. In fact she's slightly younger than I was expecting.

edited 1st Aug '16 9:46:44 PM by rmctagg09

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#59587: Aug 1st 2016 at 9:49:31 PM

Ah, it's more just how averse Japan usually is to women over 25, much less into their 30s- Titiania is drawn as being rather pretty.

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KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#59588: Aug 1st 2016 at 9:54:29 PM

To be fair, it seems they're averse to their warriors being older than 25, period. Grizzled, veteran fighter? More like over-the-hill old fogey whose bones will crumble at a moment's notice (oh, hi there, Gunter)!

Unrelated: surprisingly enough, looks like I've got another set of links today. I'm... really not sure how Friday's run crawled through the first half of the game, but it did, so there's that.

This run is notable for both Robin and Morgan having some horrifyingly bad Def and Res for a good chunk of the game. As a result, some of the safer chapters were actually dangerous. We almost RI Ped on the C9 reinforcements and almost lost out on the C11 bullion. Despite all that, it somehow P Bed over my last run by about 22 mins. Oh, and not only was this the first time I had two successful sessions in a row, but this was also me getting two successful runs in a row.

Links for the "Paper Vanilla Robin" run:

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#59589: Aug 1st 2016 at 10:02:31 PM

Gunter really is over the hill, though. He's an old man. To counterpoint: Garon and Sumeragi. Old enough to have grown children, and very powerful fighters.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#59590: Aug 1st 2016 at 10:05:49 PM

One is also a possessed corpse made in the image of the man's prime, and the other is a literal puppet possessed by Anankos and fueled by dragon's blood by said dragon.

edited 1st Aug '16 10:06:03 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#59591: Aug 1st 2016 at 10:08:13 PM

Now if we want an example of a Badass Grandpa, how come no one has brought up Walhart?

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#59592: Aug 1st 2016 at 10:21:25 PM

Being voiced by Richard Epcar does that to you.

Seriously though, how old is he supposed to be?

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#59593: Aug 1st 2016 at 10:26:41 PM

Iirc, he was mentioned (Can't remember if it was Word of God, a support, or a in-game conversation) to be in his late fifties at the earliest.

edited 1st Aug '16 10:27:56 PM by BlackSunNocturne

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#59594: Aug 1st 2016 at 11:13:28 PM

That's kinda the thing about Gunter, though. He doesn't look all that old to me. I mean, he's clearly starting to show his age, but he still looks fairly fit. The game gives him stats like he's 90 years old and about ready to fall apart (and if he gets into combat with those initial stats at all, especially in Lunatic Revelation, he pretty much will...). Granted, I suppose it's both playing it straight and subverting it, since when he returns in Conquest, he's way more formidable and about the strength I'd expect for both a grizzled veteran whose age has merely caught up to him, instead of crippling him, and someone empowered by the Rainbow Sage.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#59595: Aug 1st 2016 at 11:15:36 PM

What makes you think he isn't 90? We have dragon empowered royalty, magic, and curses that can backfire and make someone eternally young.

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KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#59596: Aug 1st 2016 at 11:25:06 PM

As I said, because he doesn't look it.

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#59597: Aug 2nd 2016 at 1:39:00 AM

About your other child being able to become a Noble: I just found that you can also reclass your other child to the opposite factions noble: I was playing Birthright and when I wanted to use the Offspring seal on my Corrin!Hisame I accidentally clicked on a Heart seal first and he had Prince(Nohr) as an option. When I reclassed him with the Offspring seal he only had Noble(Hoshido).

edited 2nd Aug '16 1:39:21 AM by Kiefen

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#59598: Aug 2nd 2016 at 1:52:09 AM

Nohr Prince(ss), despite its name, is not faction-specific since it's supposed to be Corrin's unpromoted class.

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RangerJackWalker Since: Sep, 2010
#59599: Aug 2nd 2016 at 2:08:10 AM

So about dragons going insane and the discussion on the previous page. Well, it's not accurate to say they go insane. They degenerate and go bestial. They devolve you could say. And this detail is absolutely crucial to the entire lore of FE 1 through 5 and Awakening but in the case of the latter, it's only because it's set on the same universe.

In fact, in Archanea (or Ylisse), the Wyverns that Wyvern Riders/Wyvern Lords/Dracoknights ride are just another species of dragon. The Wyvern tribe were also once intelligent dragons like Naga, Tiki, etc but the majority of their tribe refused to take human form and become manaketes due to pride. Hence, most of them degenerated. Eventually, humans in the Macedon (Plegia) region tamed the degenerated Wyvern tribe to ride as mounts.

So yeah, remember how Cherche constantly talks about Minerva? Well, Minerva's ancestors were just as intelligent as Naga, Tiki, Nowi, etc and Minerva herself would have been a Manakete in Awakening had her ancestors sealed their powers in dragon stones and taken human form.

How's that for Fridge Horror?

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#59600: Aug 2nd 2016 at 7:17:36 AM

Well... the only Paralogue I haven't done is Priam's. And MY GOD, his army is massive. I dunno if I'll have time to take care of that. Should I skip that one?


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