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MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#10126: Sep 17th 2017 at 6:43:43 PM

^ The idiots who come here try to take it home. Probably a big big reason why the pot legalization movement has caught on like wildfire since Colorado did it.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#10127: Sep 21st 2017 at 3:44:31 AM

Read some stuff that the 7.62×54mmR was used on captured M1919 machine guns during the Vietnam War. Not sure if it's true since I can't find any claims, although I won't be surprised if they use them without converting them.

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#10128: Sep 21st 2017 at 9:52:11 AM

I have doubts about that. The cartridges have different enough dimensions it would likely cause issues. Especially in terms of overall cartridge length which can lead to chronic misfeeds.

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MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#10129: Sep 21st 2017 at 5:28:00 PM

^ That. .30-06 != 7.62 Russian in dimensions by a noticeable margin. The .30-06 is 7.62x63mm in dimensions, not counting the rim that's a full 9mm longer of a cartridge than the 7.62 Russian.

Also, there were some old M1919's in Soviet service in WW 2, I think they ran on Lend-Lease .30-06 much to the Reds' chagrin.

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MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#10130: Sep 21st 2017 at 5:28:53 PM

And in other news: Poland Renames Its MSBS Rifle "The Grot"

Needs more squiggof'.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#10131: Sep 21st 2017 at 10:19:16 PM

Only conversion I heard for the M1919s that work is for 7.62 NATO.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#10132: Sep 21st 2017 at 10:34:32 PM

Speaking of 7.62mm

US Armies hare brained 7.62mm scheme is already dead.

edited 22nd Sep '17 5:24:56 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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#10134: Sep 26th 2017 at 5:10:51 PM

If you ever wanted to see how gas moves through a suppressor. You can see in the vid below and see how the shapes trap the gas and more or less help disperse the energy.

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Rosvo1 Since: Aug, 2009
#10135: Oct 4th 2017 at 4:45:51 AM

I have seen a picture of the modernized Rk 62, the AK copy that Finland uses. It looks like someone tried to crossbreed an AK and an AR but it went horribly wrong.

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#10136: Oct 4th 2017 at 9:33:57 PM

No, it's fine. Now world war II rifles made "tacticool" that's another story.

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MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#10137: Oct 5th 2017 at 4:05:42 AM

Recent Images Of Rio's Drug War.

Sure are a lot of Taurus firearms in use in Brazil.

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#10138: Oct 5th 2017 at 9:25:11 PM

[up]Um, yeah? Taurus is Brazilian. That's like saying "Wow, there sure are a lot of Frenchmen in Paris!"

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#10139: Oct 5th 2017 at 9:58:15 PM

Hue.

We use whatever we can get our hands on, including apprehended contraband.

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#10140: Oct 10th 2017 at 11:15:39 PM

Sturmgewehr 57 in full auto plus 7.5mm Swiss equals lots of muzzle flash.

I wonder what would happen if you replaced someone's ring tone with the report.

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#10141: Oct 10th 2017 at 11:52:56 PM

Holy muzzle flash powered flood lamps.

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#10142: Oct 18th 2017 at 11:17:55 AM

So, something I noticed in Fallout: New Vegas is they classify the flamethrower as an energy weapon. Could flamethrowers actually be considered energy weapons? If not, they are certainly the closest thing we have to energy weapons in real life right now, as they don't fire solid projectiles unlike other firearms, instead creating and firing thermal energy (fire) by igniting fuel from the tank.

edited 18th Oct '17 12:09:54 PM by FireCrawler2002

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#10143: Oct 18th 2017 at 11:47:06 AM

Technically speaking they are indeed chemical energy weapons, yes.

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#10144: Oct 18th 2017 at 12:11:49 PM

And just like other/fictional energy weapons, they also fell victim to Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better once incendiary grenades and rockets became a thing.

edited 18th Oct '17 12:13:02 PM by FireCrawler2002

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#10145: Oct 18th 2017 at 12:26:21 PM

...that's not how that trope in question works. What you mentioned are merely longer ranged flamethrowers, given that their main method of action is still combustion.

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MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#10147: Oct 19th 2017 at 6:00:06 AM

the closest thing we have to energy weapons in real life right now

Maybe for man-portables. Directed energy weapons are already a thing in reality. Weaponized lasers are coming into practice (one already serves on a US Navy ship) and non-lethal energy weapons exist but they are both vehicle/aircraft/building/ship mounted.

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#10148: Oct 19th 2017 at 4:43:22 PM

Technology marches on... slowly. I suppose we'll have to settle for a Ghostbusters proton pack before we can get Han Solo's quick-draw blaster.

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#10149: Oct 19th 2017 at 5:11:02 PM

Speaking of quick draws. I had a random idea about handguns.

What if we took the bullet of a .50 BMG and matched it with a 12.7mm casing for a handgun? What kind of performance in anything could we get? Say out of a 4-5 inch barreled sidearm with a maximum velocity of say 350 m/s if possible.

I also wondered the possibility of doing the same for 5.56mm and 7.62x51. The whole thing was borne of a What If? caused by thinking about the 8mm Ribeyrolles cartridge from 1918 and how they used a regular 8mm Lebel bullet but fit it in a different casing (modified .351 SL in that case) and thought of making it for pistols.

Just a curiosity.

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#10150: Oct 19th 2017 at 5:33:40 PM

There really wouldn't be any point in firing a long, pointed, spitzer-type rifle bullet out of a short-barreled handgun, because it wouldn't have the range necessary to benefit from the improved aerodynamics, nor the velocity to achiever greater penetration.

A .50 BMG bullet weighs 700 grains (45 grams) in a standard FMJ configuration. Out of an M2 heavy machine gun with a 45 inch barrel (1,143 mm), it has a muzzle velocity of 2,978 feet per second (908 meters/second).

The heaviest bullet load available for the .500 S&W Magnum is 500 grains (32 g), which achieves 1,425 fps (434 m/s) out of a 10.5 inch barrel (267 mm), while the lightest is a 300 grain (19 g) at 2,075 fps (632 m/s).

You do the math.

edited 19th Oct '17 6:04:44 PM by pwiegle

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