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And De Gaulle has gotten a new round of torture in Hell. Now not even French weapons are French anymore.

edited 26th Sep '16 3:46:41 PM by MajorTom

Well they tried to create a very localized industry and it bit them in the ass when it tanked. They should have started with something like the G2 that had the fixes the G1 needed and was NATO Standard Compliant.

Instead they made the Proprietary nightmare that was the G1 and the Army dug in their heels on adapting anything else until it was too late. Well now they can buy foreign and like it.

China may adopt a new rifle:

The round the article refers to is a steel slug with a copper coating (or "wash"). When Shotgun News" got ahold of some and tested it, it went through'' most of the body armor they could get ahold of. The round is meant for DMR and machine guns in the PLA. Hence the new X-SAPPI plates and the Army's new M 855 A 1.

HK called, they want basically their errythin' from the HK 416 back. And Colt just piped up that that new gat looks too like their M4 as well. Good job the Chinese government has zero fucks to give about blatant copyright infringement, as BMW found to their cost when a Chinese car company basically cloned the X5 down to its wheel nuts and got off lightly when they were challenged by them in an Italian court.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting stronger ACR vibes from the rear half of those rifles than I do AR vibes.

So Magpul are going to be pissed at them as well. Hilaribad.

The barrel and gas system positioning looks an awfully lot like the HK-16.

I guess we will only know if someone takes one and disassemble it.

Odd, I'm getting a very Galil ACE series feel from it.

So China sat down with a gun guide and ripped of as many guns as they possibly could to make a sort of franken gun.

Franken gun, the best kind of gun!

edited 27th Sep '16 4:55:49 PM by MajorTom

So it's a Shanghai Special?

To be entirely fair, most successful assault rifles after the first ones fit that description to some degree. It's a very mature field.

Yeah but this is the Chinese, kings of the klepto design and tech bureau.

edited 27th Sep '16 8:40:11 PM by TuefelHundenIV

But does it actually like, work?

^ Define "work".

Textron Displays Newest CT Carbine.

Chambered for a 6.5mm cartridge that retains ballistics very much like .308 but is a fuckton lighter in weight. Still under 10 lbs fully loaded. I could see this being fielded as a squad battle rifle and/or DMR like how a SCAR-H or M-14 EBR is.

I'd just have to wonder the recoil.

And then I'd have to wonder if Textron has caught themselves in the equivalent of a fork because allegedly the idea for a 6.5mm CT cartridge was spun off from the existing LSAT machine gun program to either improve it or replace it altogether.

edited 28th Sep '16 5:23:32 AM by MajorTom

I've seen a few arguments that if the US is serious about switching to polymer-cased ammo, it should take full advantage of the fact that since it's not going to be compatible with brass-cased and it'll have to constitute a new cartridge for logistical purposes, it may as well switch to a long 6.x-mm caliber for long-rang engagements.

That's potentially sacrificing a bit of controllability at close range, though.

Possibly but I'm sure we can figure some sort of recoil mitigation thing out. Even if it's just a fancy muzzle brake.

Like the Russians have done that and now more and more of their inventory is in 7.62 again.

That new carbine prototype in clean rig plus loaded twenty-round magazine is at the moment heavier than an M4 with all the SOPMOD kit bolted on and a thirty-round magazine stuck up its arse. I used to think the SA 80 was a heavy heifer of a thing but that had a thirty-round loaded magazine as part of its weight budget.

That prototype needs to go on a diet and sharpish.

Please tell me you are joking.

What the fuck did they make that thing out of? Machined billet steel?

God it's like when I found out that Chey Tac intervention thing is apparently like 30 fucking pounds or something.

Is that...bulky thingy in front of the magwell, holding all the extra weight of the gun?

I know at this point the 6.5 CT can have its volume shaved a bit because it is sharing the same case as the 7.62 CT and they didn't make a curved magazine for it yet, but that one at the display isn't any different from the one they showed in the early pictures.

They will have to rework a few things on that gun to make it more viable.

There has to be something extra and nonstandard being added into it to make it that heavy.

edited 28th Sep '16 9:54:12 PM by TuefelHundenIV

It's totes the bulky thingy.

What is that anyway?