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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#7476: Sep 3rd 2015 at 1:07:10 PM

Honestly I wrote it off as some shitty ACR knockoff but it's actually looking pretty damn respectable.

First the Czechs and now Poland coming in with the modern weapon designs, it's nice.

Oh really when?
Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#7477: Sep 3rd 2015 at 2:21:11 PM

There's always been some excellent weapon design coming out of both those countries. The Janecek adapter, the BESA machine gun, the Polish adaptations of the Cauchat, etc.

Schild und Schwert der Partei
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#7478: Sep 3rd 2015 at 3:16:13 PM

Are ISIS Militants Trading AKs for M-16s?

Answer: Not really. They're just picking up whatever they can use. Be they ex-Iraqi Army M-16s or ex-Syrian Army AKM's or what have you.

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#7479: Sep 3rd 2015 at 3:19:13 PM

The AK and M16 are the most common assault rifles in the world. They probably already had the A Ks, and got the M16s from Iraqi Army bases that they have raided/captured, supply drops from the US that they captured, and Western ground troops they may have defeated. Since the M16 uses the ammo their enemies use, they probably think it is a better choice.

edited 3rd Sep '15 3:24:43 PM by Bat178

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#7480: Sep 3rd 2015 at 3:39:22 PM

No one wants to throw rocks when you can possibly shoot bullets. They probably have a plethora of home made fire arms as well.

edited 3rd Sep '15 3:39:46 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#7482: Sep 6th 2015 at 2:49:59 PM

Now that there is one sexy lookin stop gap.

I want one. That sight is unfamiliar to me though but I have seen it once before. Attached to AK-107 with a 60 round casket mag.

Is it a new design?

edited 6th Sep '15 2:51:28 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#7483: Sep 6th 2015 at 2:53:08 PM

I like how you describe adding equipment as tarting up. :P

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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#7484: Sep 6th 2015 at 3:20:57 PM

Well, the rifles were perfectly capable of killing people without this new glam they're getting, so, yeah, tarting up it is. [lol] They do look nice, and they're getting more ergonomic with that keymod/picatinny combo rails and stuff.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#7485: Sep 6th 2015 at 5:04:32 PM

And it proves once and for all that the Kremlin and the Russian equivalent of the DOD are hardcore Battleduty fans.

Now their AK's look EXACTLY like the "AK-47" of Modern Warfare 2.

edited 6th Sep '15 5:05:32 PM by MajorTom

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#7486: Sep 6th 2015 at 5:16:01 PM

What is their DOD?

It's like OKB or something right?

Oh really when?
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#7487: Sep 7th 2015 at 8:12:37 PM

FSB, though that might be their equivalent of the FBI instead.

edited 7th Sep '15 8:13:14 PM by Bat178

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#7488: Sep 7th 2015 at 8:55:12 PM

[up]It's the latter. What you seek is the Ministry of Defense.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#7489: Sep 7th 2015 at 8:58:38 PM

MOD works as an acronym I suppose.

Oh really when?
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#7491: Sep 8th 2015 at 4:54:47 PM

Not gonna lie, if it wasn't pointed out to me I probably wouldn't have been able to tell those were PKMs off the bat.

Oh really when?
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#7492: Sep 8th 2015 at 5:32:24 PM

The receiver and the fact the ammo bag latches to the bottom as opposed to the left for Western/NATO guns are the two dead giveaways.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#7493: Sep 8th 2015 at 6:14:12 PM

The M-249 and M-240 ammo bags/boxes that attach to the bottom and only attach from the side in vehicle mounts. The only difference is the Russian PKM feeds from the right instead of the left. There was a device made for the 240 that made mounting on the side possible but otherwise the M-240 also posses a simple underside mounting bracket for attaching ammo boxes and bags.

M-249 with box on the underside mounting bracket

Keep in mind the old boxes that used to mount underneath were cheap plastic with some cheap wire in some examples. They had a bad habit of falling off and were rarely used outside of training.

edited 8th Sep '15 7:17:15 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#7494: Sep 8th 2015 at 7:57:44 PM

[up][up] Isn't Poland part of the West, seeing as it is in Europe and NATO, or does that only count for European countries west of Finland and the Czech Republic?

AFP Since: Mar, 2010
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#7496: Sep 8th 2015 at 8:10:49 PM

Or we could just make it really simple and call them Europeans? Too simple?

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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#7497: Sep 8th 2015 at 8:17:39 PM

Usually when someone refers to "The West", they specifically mean the United States, though Canada, most of Europe, Australia and New Zealand can also count as "The West" (Arguably, anything west of Asia can also count as "The West").

edited 8th Sep '15 8:18:06 PM by Bat178

AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#7498: Sep 8th 2015 at 8:39:05 PM

I think Australia and New Zealand sort of get grandfathered into The West(TM) because they're Anglophone nations with modern economies and militaries. Compare to Japan, which is decidedly not part of The West, despite the modern economy and military defense forces.

I'm not entirely certain you'd even consider Germany and Austria to be part of The West until the Post-WWII era, both of them having been decidedly "Central" powers (hey, that'd be a good name for a band or an international alliance or something...)

edited 8th Sep '15 8:40:18 PM by AFP

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#7499: Sep 9th 2015 at 4:37:48 AM

I've always considered Poland an Eastern country that's part of NATO is all.

Oh really when?
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#7500: Sep 9th 2015 at 4:55:45 AM

The M-249 and M-240 ammo bags/boxes...

I could have sworn I've seen left side mountings for infantry use. On both of them.

Maybe it's just the perspective. The PKM bag is practically and noticeably centered in a very unique way.


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