All Purpose Negima Fanfiction Thread

I'm not going to say I've read the whole Naruto manga or watched the whole anime (I'm not a masochistic), but from all I saw, the overall impression I got was Naruto characters, including the lead, do use tactics, but those tactics are most often a back and forth volley of asspulls and half-baked 'strategies' that may sound and look cool (and mostly, flashy, all the best to distract the reader) but are actually rather stupid, until Plot decrees one side's asspull must prevail over the other's.

I'm not going to call that clever fighting, because even if we're supposed to accept it as 'clever', that's an Informed Trait coming from an Idiot Plot.

edited 26th Mar '15 10:19:47 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

Heh heh.

Ah-ha-ha-ha!

Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.

I felt a few of those strategies/tactics were decent. The Shadow Shuriken Clone trick they pulled on Zabuza for example. I suppose the number of overall decent strategies/tactics could be counted on 1 hand (maybe 2 if we're generous). From what I recall the further we got into Part 2 the more asspulls we got as Serial Escalation and New Powers as the Plot Demands started kicking in (especially during the war arc which started suffering Arc Fatigue).

edited 26th Mar '15 10:48:44 AM by WorldTurtle2

Much like Negima itself, the characters went from "Figure out a way to beat a superior opponent" to "Toss as many high powered techniques at the opponent as you can and hope for the best".

All the 'tactics' usage fell to the wayside once the characters just discovered new, bigger and flashier techniques.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

The Uchiha were truly the ones most guilty of New Powers as the Plot Demands, but for the most part Naruto himself was fairly consistent with his powers and whenever he did exhibit new powers it was justified since it was a new Super Mode although some of the abilities of Kyubi mode (extra limbs and such0 were foreshadowed.

They still needed tactics way into Part 2, just look at the fights against Itachi, Pain, Third Raikage and Obito to name a few.

edited 26th Mar '15 11:04:53 AM by Archivist10

Note to self: Keep tactics in for Pot M.

"This is Setsuna Sakurazaki. Preparing to commence armed intervention."

So, when NARUTO does it, it's a justified new super mode, but when an UCHIHA does it, it's New Powers as the Plot Demands? Such a Protagonist-Centered Morality…

So, it turns out we've been pronouncing the series name wrong. The proper romanization is Nalt. Since his son is called Bolt (it certainly isn't Boruto, that would be crazy talk). After a decade of crappy manga, how does no one notice they were westernizing the name wrong?

Also, random question, where would it be most fun to drop Mahora Academy in a Mass Teleportation Scenario? The Thirty Years War, the Napoleonic Wars, the American Revolution, during the Hung Dynasty, the Sengoku Era or during the Trojan War? And should it be with or without dragons?

edited 26th Mar '15 3:45:27 PM by SCMof2814

Because Naruto is how everyone pronounces it. Also Bolt is an English word being writte/pronounced in japanese, Naruto is a Japanese word to begin with.

Also, I said the Uchiha were the worst not that other characters don't do it. I can't think of any off the top of my head though.

Sure many Uchiha abilities are kinda justified due to new supermode. But they also get abilities which weren't previously established as part of their roster; Izanagi, Izanami and Limbo.

edited 26th Mar '15 3:56:47 PM by Archivist10

This is rhetorical, right? Always dragons.

I vote Sengoku.

Be warned there will be no Kamen Rider Fruit Samurai in the Sengoku era. And I can't promise not to use Nasuverse versions…

And when I say dragons, I mean the Temeraire series.

edited 26th Mar '15 4:05:53 PM by SCMof2814

You could always go with the Koihime version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

If a fourth faction fills up the vacuum Enshou leaves behind when she gets herself curbstomped on both sides by Sousou and Kazuto, it could actually throw an interesting wrench into how the story goes.

edited 26th Mar '15 5:12:05 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

The Roswell UFO Incident.

Oh! Roswell would be FUNNY! Better than my idea of dropping Mahora into the Salem Witch Trials.

IANCE's idea would also be interesting. One of these days I need to read/watch about that part of History. That is a popular game after all.

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Aren't those first two Japanese gods of some sort? Or at the least, Personas from the games?

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Working on something stupid for my monthly quota. Should be ready to post in a couple of days.

Madman with a box? I'm a madman with a semi, a pretzel bender and a Heart of Gold!

I can't think of any off the top of my head though.

That's because unless you were part of the Sage of Six Paths Blood Line you weren't special enough to receive random power ups.

That's kinda a theme with Uchiha abilities, they are named after Gods: Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu, Susanoo, Izanagi and Izanami.

I wouldn't call any of Naruto's power-ups random, nor some of the Uchiha for that matter.There tended to be a reason why they got these powerups.

edited 26th Mar '15 6:24:27 PM by Archivist10

Well if naming their techniques after various gods isn't proof enough of their clan's God Complex I don't know what is.

edited 26th Mar '15 6:27:41 PM by WorldTurtle2

There tended to be a reason why they got these powerups.

Those 'reasons' are still asspulls on themselves, from a Doylist perspective.

I can justify my wanking of my own characters with all the in-universe reasons I want to come up with, but that still only works in-universe (the Watsonian perspective). In meta terms, I'm still making shit up all the time, only that now it's by tinkering with the rulebook itself.

Put simply...

... Just because it's an in-universe thing that was retconned into existence doesn't mean it is any less of an insanely convenient new power that the plot demanded.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

On Naruto and Razenshuriken, I once overheard a friend mentioning to another that is was the basic plot of every filler episode of the anime:

• Villain appears.
• Naruto tries his cloned kick combo, fails to defeat villain.
• Naruto tries all sorts of jutsus, fails too
• Naruto tries Razenshuriken, wins, end of episode.

However, this is all hearsay, since I didn't watch it.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

I don't think we can fairly blame Naruto for its filler.

Neither do I, but if true, it must be where the cliché comes from to those who didn't read the manga.

This doesn't excuse, but at least it explains.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

I had something I was going to say, but then I forgot it while laughing at Medinoc's sig.

Have at you guys with some cute KonoSetsu!

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