It's a Gundam thread!

Yeah, the point was over there, you missed it.

Victory is kind of like Evangelion in that most of the darkness and tragedy in the setting results from the author's neurosis and therefore has trouble connecting with anyone not a party to their particular issues.

I'm sure Tomino thought that the way he killed off the Shrikes was deep and meaningful, but to many of the rest of us it simply comes across as "what the fuck is your problem with women?"

Well, that's it right there, isn't it? Poor SOB never got himself laid.

edited 1st Mar '15 6:17:02 PM by kkhohoho

Poor Girls, Katejina is crazy.

The trope page mentions the possibility of her getting turned into a Cyber-Newtype offscreen. From what I've seen of her in the climax of Victory and previous Cyber-Newtypes in the Universal Century, I wouldn't be surprised.

If so she must be a very different type of screwed up however.

I mentioned the "Who can be saved" topic I made and it was largely inspired by the Super Robot Wars games which seem to have a habit of saving certain doomed characters.

Apparently this crazy Victory chick was only saved in one game and even then people were like "wut?"

She must be very different from Four or Rosamy, even if she is a Cyber Newtype.

edited 2nd Mar '15 1:46:38 AM by Nikkolas

Well, this should be hilarious:

Someone translated the Frozen Teardrop picture drama, which adapts the not-flashback portions of the first couple of chapters.

So if you want a glimpse at the train wreck that is FT's story, here you are.

The Angel Halo actually makes a terrifying amount of sense if you're willing to abandon all moral principles - it's the ultimate 'kills people, leaves buildings standing' weapon that can let you win a war in a single shot. The fact that the thousands of misled civilians inside it (who thought they were broadcasting messages of peace and love to convince Earth's population to surrender) provide it with a giant human shield by default is just the icing on the cake.

Mindwiping someone really is the level of Complete Monster ain't it?

It really is, it basically kill the person but leaves the body intact for someone new.

There are quite a few monsters in Gundam... and Char.

I would say pretty much every Gundam series, outside of Build Fighters, has at least 1.

True.

Oh that reminds me! What is your favorite villain suit? Could be a Mook Mobile or one of the Ace Customs!

The Halo doesn't mind-wipe people, it puts them to sleep until they starve to death (and degrades their minds and bodies to accelerate the process). Like I said, kills people, leaves buildings standing.

Gundam Epyon. Always and forever. It's introduction was one of the best parts of Wing.

Also for some reason I thought Rau was on the CM page. I don't think he belongs there which is why I was gonna object to it but now I'm curious why he isn't on there? I suspect Ambar would know and can tell me when he arrives.

I am a sucker for Freedom just cause I tend to like things with lots of guns, but not in the lame way that was Heavyarms. It was really the first Gundam I thought was really awesome, I had only seen Wing and 0079 movies before watching Seed.

Second would have to be Zeta, just cause I love how different it looks compared to every other Gundam, the transforming was quite cool and really it did some great stuff sans to second to last episode of the Zeta series.

Zeta is pretty much my go to suit in Dynasty Warriors Gundam just cause.

My fav Mook would probably have to be the Destiny era Zakus.

edited 2nd Mar '15 7:10:33 AM by Memers

He said villain suits. On that note, the Qubeley and its descendants (especially the Kshatriya) are pretty lovely. The WaDom also deserves a shout for being the weirdest generic mook-suit in Gundam.

Oops...

Uhh, Probably Reborns Gundam or Qubeley then. Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 really sold me on Reborns I fell in love with the thing in it.

edited 2nd Mar '15 7:12:44 AM by Memers

I have a certain fondness for those wacky mobile armours that Zeon kept throwing out against the Gundam in 0079 in all those filler episodes. Can't remember their names though.

Bigro, Grabro and Braw Bro?

Braw Bro isn't really filler. At least, didn't feel so.

edited 2nd Mar '15 9:13:21 AM by amitakartok

Not quite. Which was the yellow one with the hideous face?

EDIT: Got it. This glorious thing.

edited 2nd Mar '15 11:45:04 AM by RangerJackWalker

@Nikkolas

Le Creuset was on the CM page briefly but was cut very early in the clean-up due to a variety of disqualifying factors, including, but not limited to, his Freudian Excuse, the fact that he honestly seems to think he's doing the world a favour, questions as to his sanity, and therefore, moral agency, and the fact that he does appear to have a genuine friendship with Durandal and Rey. Individually those might not have been enough to cut, but taken altogether they're a reason to disqualify. It also helps that he inhabits the same world as Azrael and Djibril who are far more personally repulsive.

Speaking of Le Creuset, my vote for favourite villain suit goes to the Providence.

Why was that even a thing.

Fav villain mech: Turn X. That machine's debut was absolutely one of the most powerful (read: terrifying) moments of the show.

...But on the other hand, I also want to say the Dark Gundam....

Favorite bad guy mech? Hmm... I'm tied between Destiny and Arche. I like the Destiny but the Arche was fucking badass.

@Endless Sea If you're talking about the Zakrello, then the obvious answer is because it's glorious.