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evilneko Since: Nov, 2009
#151: Oct 25th 2010 at 3:30:14 PM

I donno. Robocop or some no-name guy who got blown up... I'm goin with Robocop.

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#152: Oct 27th 2010 at 5:55:44 AM

[up][up]I thought it was a tattoo and a nightclub logo. I guess it could be a club stamp. Either way, it's still horribly unoriginal.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#153: Oct 27th 2010 at 7:12:09 AM

The show DID point out that it was unoriginal, though. Michael Angelo explained how common the imagery was. I'm pretty sure it's a club stamp. I think Deb even says that. Since when do most nightclubs have non-cliche images?

I think it's fine as a minor plot point.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
evilneko Since: Nov, 2009
#154: Oct 31st 2010 at 8:59:47 PM

For some reason, even though it's classic Dexter, I didn't enjoy tonight's episode much. Maybe the formula's wearing thin on me. It just felt stilted, awkward.. forced.

EternalSeptember Since: Sep, 2010
#155: Nov 1st 2010 at 5:43:54 AM

Episode 6 was hilarious.

The Belligerent Sexual Tension dialogues between Dex and Lumen/Harrison's die-die/Dexter's die-die/Lumen's "Whait What?" moment at seeing the Cellophane Guy/Masuka's theory, etc. The Crowning Moment of Funny was the Oh Crap faces Dexter and the cellophane guy made while running in epic slow mo.

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#156: Nov 1st 2010 at 9:12:09 AM

Masuka's theory, as far as I followed it, didn't really explain why the one dude shot the other dude, then chased him to another building to get strangled by him.

It wasn't Season 2-level contrivance, but it did feel a bit off.

That said, I really enjoyed the moment between Lumen and Dexter at the end. I really did not enjoy the moment between Deb and Quinn-Not-Doakes. Peter Weller rocked, though.

edited 1st Nov '10 9:12:49 AM by Dracomicron

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
evilneko Since: Nov, 2009
#157: Nov 1st 2010 at 7:32:34 PM

I was disappointed at Deb and Quinn. But then, I was hoping for some Les Yay.

During the Masuka's Theory scene, when the hose was displayed prominently in the foreground, I kept thinking someone was going to spot a drip, or something. I'm also wondering if Masuka's Theory being so full of holes is deliberate: yet another building block to the downfall of Dexter.

LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#158: Nov 2nd 2010 at 10:13:50 AM

What I really felt was contrived was that the guy Lumen stalked, based on "a feeling and an odor" was actually the guy. I suppose we really want to get into the nitty gritty of this... um... "organized rape ring" (I have never heard of such a thing, but then again I don't really watch the news) that was introduced a few episodes ago.

Call me dense, but I think the story could also have worked if the man were innocent and Lumen is just an evil (and stupid) bitch.

Talby Since: Jun, 2009
#159: Nov 3rd 2010 at 3:29:25 AM

I'm getting pretty tired of the relationship subplots that go nowhere. It's like at the start of each season the writers go, "okay, which two random characters will we throw together in order to pad the series a bit?"

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#160: Nov 3rd 2010 at 8:35:30 AM

Led Walrus: Serial Killer Killers don't really exist much in real life, either.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
evilneko Since: Nov, 2009
#161: Nov 4th 2010 at 3:45:53 PM

^ ^ Troof. Unless it has some payoff involving OTHER characters and story elements (like, say, Deb and the Ice Truck Killer, Deb and Lundy, Deb and Anton, Deb sure gets around..) then it should be cut.

Then again Deb x Quinn could eventually have a payoff too.

Call me dense, but I think the story could also have worked if the man were innocent and Lumen is just an evil (and stupid) bitch.

Nah, not evil. Just broken. Very broken.

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#162: Nov 5th 2010 at 6:51:31 AM

They're setting Lumen up to have a Dark Passenger like Dexter's... basically she will be allowed to be sympathetic while still getting to murder the hell out of bad guys. She'll have some "growing pains" into her new life, but they dealt with "you are going after the wrong guy" in the previous episode; I think we can reasonably trust her instincts about her targets going forward.

As for Deb/Quinn (Dinn? Quib?), I'm pretty certain that there'll be some payoff. Quinn is going after Dexter full-tilt boogie, and we know how THAT always turns out. Quinn ain't even in Miguel Prado's league (much less James MOTHERFUCKING Doakes), and Dexter has gained a couple levels since then.

edited 5th Nov '10 6:54:21 AM by Dracomicron

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#163: Nov 5th 2010 at 10:35:15 AM

I've learnt to stop bitching about the romantic side character subplots. Since apparently Batista and La Guerta are not interesting enough to do actual police work, they may as well be in someone else's pants.

Deb is doomed to jump from bone to bone because of her semi-attractive nature.

So I jes' roll wif it.

Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
Long Live the King
#164: Nov 5th 2010 at 6:45:04 PM

^^ Well, Quinn doesn't seem to want the guy he hired to go all-out in finding what Dexter's up to...

Whether that is more about him wanting to keep hooking up with Deb, or wanting said information to be available in a case against Dexter, is debatable.  *

evilneko Since: Nov, 2009
#165: Nov 7th 2010 at 3:12:25 PM

Gained a couple of levels? I'd argue he's lost a few.

Quinn latched onto that loose Kyle Butler thread. I think in his mind, he's already made the connection that Kyle Butler == Dexter, and he just needs to somehow confirm it. He may or may not have lost his opportunity to do so. If he gets another chance to pull on that thread, Dexter might end up in a pickle.

Who knows what Robocop might pull up. He obviously has no qualms about the rules, which may be good in a not-useful-in-court sense, but would still lead to some uncomfortable questions.

Quinn's premise may be false but in pursuing it he may stumble across the truth. And just what might happen if he finds out about Lumen?

Edit: Watched tonight's episode. Guess what?

I liked it. Also, you GO Debra Morgan.

edited 7th Nov '10 9:18:28 PM by evilneko

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#166: Nov 7th 2010 at 9:15:40 PM

I don't like Lumen. I want her to go away.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
Long Live the King
#167: Nov 8th 2010 at 3:29:57 AM

What happens if/when Dexter is asked about his relationship with Lumen?

If he's smart; she's just a fling Dexter is using to get over his loss of Rita.

Something tells me that Dexter would have a hard time coming up with that unless he was prompted...

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#168: Nov 8th 2010 at 7:00:39 AM

Well, I wouldn't say that Dexter has lost levels; he's gotten sloppier in his methods (last season and the season before he ended up killing innocents, for certain definitions of the term "innocent"), but he undoubtably has increased his skills; he still remembers the Bay Harbor Butcher case and the tricks needed to cover his tracks.

Peter Weller is stealing every scene from poor overmatched Quinn. I hope Quinn dies and it becomes Dexter vs. Robocop forever.

I actually really like Lumen. I like that she does complicated things to Dexter's head, including, seemingly, banishing the Ghost of Harry. As much as I enjoy Dexter's complicated relationship with Ghost Dad, it's pretty much a known known at this point. Watching his brain try to come up with an appropriate response to Lumen (the handshake was hilarious) is much more interesting.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
EternalSeptember Since: Sep, 2010
#169: Nov 8th 2010 at 10:16:02 AM

I ♥ Lumen.

She is like the best parts of Lila and Rita combined, the former's active, in-the-picture Manic Pixie Dream Girl role, with the latter's cuteness and sanity.

I mean, just how much more interesting Dexter's life got? It used to be almost mechanical, check the profile, search for evidence, catch the bad guy, kill him, dump him in the ocean. Now with Lumen, it's all about whacky hijinks like chasing a naked man wrapped in cellophane, following blood trails, wrestling

Also, Dexter is totally Tsundere for her, and that is hilarious.

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#170: Nov 8th 2010 at 11:52:24 AM

Frankly, the best part of Lila is summed up in a Deb-ism: "Little Miss Pardon My Tits." Now, I wouldn't, strictly speaking, be opposed to Lumen taking those qualities, somehow I don't think that's where they're going with her, at least not at first.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
Nabi Since: Jan, 2001
#171: Nov 8th 2010 at 12:25:35 PM

^^ Tsundere for Lumen? I hadn't thought of it that way, but it really is a hilarious mental image. But I largely agree with this; their dynamic is rather entertaining.

I'm one of the people who actually liked Lila. (Please don't hurt me for this. I just like crazy characters.) But, I do agree that Lumen is saner and better for Dexter, even if she still carries her own risks and dangers. And while I didn't dislike Rita, I think I like Lumen better still.

Shifting topics, it seems like the thing with Cody and Astor hasn't been given much attention beyond a brief mention an episode or so before this one. Would this count as Put on a Bus?

edited 8th Nov '10 12:31:11 PM by Nabi

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#172: Nov 8th 2010 at 12:31:57 PM

RE: Cody & Astor. Probably Put on a Bus, but it really depends on what happens to them at the end of the season, or in next season, when things even out.

Them going to stay with their grandmother is totally understandable, given the circumstances, but I think that Dexter is, in fact, their legal guardian now, so that will have to be addressed at some point.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
evilneko Since: Nov, 2009
#173: Nov 8th 2010 at 2:01:25 PM

"Little Miss Pardon My Tits."

And what nice little tits they were, too. Come to think of it I wonder if Michael C. Hall has a thing for pettankos. :D

Watching his brain try to come up with an appropriate response to Lumen (the handshake was hilarious) is much more interesting.

"Just like my prom." [lol]

I really did like this episode. Looking forward to Dexter the serial killer trying to help Deb cope with shooting that Fuentes fuckwad in the head. OTOH, not looking forward to the shitstorm spawning up around La Guerta.

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#174: Nov 8th 2010 at 2:27:09 PM

La Guerta's writing seems off this season. She just keeps picking up that Idiot Ball and running for negative yardage. Matthews is right: she's normally a much better player than this.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#175: Nov 9th 2010 at 3:22:40 PM

Speaking of Matthews, I listed him as Da Chief in the page. I find it odd that his promotion came without warning or fanfare.


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