The Pokédex - Extended Fanon Edition

So uh

Calling dibs on evolutionary process.

A couple of questions: is it an accepted fact that Arceus created everything? Are there real animals in the setting or only pokemon?

edited 16th Jun '11 4:58:33 AM by Aminatep

Pretty sure there are only Pokemon. As for Arceus, there are multiple religions with multiple interpretations of the Pokeverse, so you should be able to do anything that doesn't conflict too much with other stuff.

edited 16th Jun '11 7:10:23 AM by Swampertrox

Something I'd like to add for the Swablu line, coinciding with my theories for Dragon Pokemon. See, what differentiates Dragons from normal reptilian Pokemon is a specific type of super-tough hide that is resistant to most things and can only be pierced by cold or techniques specifically designed to counter it ("Dragon" type attacks). The reason why Altaria is classified as a Dragon is because, upon evolution, it develops this so-called "Dragon Scale" hide. That's also the reason why Charizard and Gyarados aren't considered dragons.

That works for me.

I'm pretty sure there are not only Pokémon, unless "trees", "plankton" and "bacteria", in case they exist (and the trees do, in all canons, with apparently the same variety that exists here in Earth) are all Pokémon. There's also no reason why only humans (and trees?) have to be the only Earth-esque creatures out there when we have been shown fish in at least one continuity and there is evidence of life, Pokémon or otherwise, beyond the atmosphere of Pokéarth. Also considering something that has been said several times before — there's no way to sustain an ecosystem with such a low amount of different species.

As for Arceus, only the myth states that he created "everything", or at least that he came before "everything" (else). I'm not sure how close to the truth could that be while still interpreting the myth. He might have created only Pokémon and a Poképlanet, for example, although that gets fairly complicated. For a creature that created a friggin' universe, Arceus was nerfed to the point of Humiliation Conga in Movie 12 (dying because a mere meteorite hit him, or because someone dumped a bit of "silverwater" on him, duh), but then that's the anime...

edited 16th Jun '11 8:28:07 AM by SilentReverence

Bottom line: So Arceus created all pokemon 100%?

I jacked one of my fingers up today, so there'll be a slight delay on the Venipede article.

Creating the Universe does not equal creating each and every different lifeform. Those are different things.

Huh. So if anything, they don't seem to actually evolve in the straight sense.

That puts an interesting spin on this. I think it's kinda like intelligent design vs. spontaneous, except intelligent design's the scientific view here.

I thought that someone already wrote a Swablu article...

Yeah, Sullen did.

I'm fairly certain that I'd remember if I wrote a Swablu article, guys.

Oh wait, that was the Dratini article.

Damn it, I know it's there, but we neglected to have it indexed.

edited 16th Jun '11 3:48:06 PM by rmctagg09

Indeed—along with Axew, Totodile, Rhyhorn, Absol, Groudon, Deoxys, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltress, Lugia, Dialga, Onix, Spiritomb, Cobalion, Larvitar, and Cacnea.

And I'm fairly certain that there was a Swablu line at some point.

edited 16th Jun '11 3:52:03 PM by SullenFrog

I'm trying to find it back.

Found it

Tip- search Google with "inurl:rmvjixctp256gfq3p86y66ma".

edited 16th Jun '11 3:57:17 PM by Tangent128

x12: The question wasn't whether there were other lifeforms beside Pokemon, it was whether there were other animals. Aside from a couple anime inconsistencies (I can only think of two, and one was an ad) there are no non-Pokemon animals in canon.

About Arceus, my personal theory is that he/she/it/whatever created the universe, the Dragon trio, the Lake trio, Mew, and any other relevant legendaries (possibly Zeshirom) and then other lifeforms evolved from Mew, making it the ancestor of all pokemon.

Should we ask the author if we can make additions/edits?

Yeah, it could use a buffing.

Humans. Alghough I concede to the point, a worls with our plants and bacteria but not our animals simply doesn't make sense, in particular after you add that the animal-replacements shoot Fricking Laser Beams from their mouths and level mountains with thier tails. Oh and they "evolve" metamorphosis-like.

Then again I'm a beleiver on the Generation Ship theory so...

edited 16th Jun '11 5:55:47 PM by SilentReverence

I always figured that the Pokemon planet was colonized in a similar method to the 40k colonization strategy pre-Age of Strife, namely they landed on a planet, befriended the alien lifeforms, and gradually forgot about the fact they came from space.

or perhaps they landed on the planet, and something caused a class 1 Apocalypse How causing them to loose all the high tech stuff they landed with, kinda like Dragonriders Of Pern.

edited 16th Jun '11 6:50:04 PM by Blissey1

OR!

Maybe they do have normal animals, but the Kanto/Johto/Hoenn/Sinnoh/Unova/Whatever other regions are so densely populated by Pokemon no one notices normal animals. The rest of the worlds has a much different Pokemon:Animal ratio. Or maybe it could just be Gameplay and Story Segregation, as if a normal animal appeared, people would wonder why you couldn't catch it. Also, keep in mind some of the articles mention normal animals. One final note: my brother has a Japanese card of Spearow (or should I say Onisuzume? ) has a worm in the foreground.

edited 16th Jun '11 7:05:16 PM by Kexruct

Possibly earthworms and planktons are 'mons but they either suck too much and no one uses them or don't attack humans.