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The PokÚdex - Extended Fanon Edition:

 2726 Anomalocaris 20, Wed, 26th Jan '11 5:41:42 PM from Mr. Bones' Wild Ride Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Suffer for your art
Excuse me, but where is that Bellsprout's vine coming from?
The EYE is protecting Exor!!

General of the Ridley Facepalm Army.
 2727 Calamity Jane, Wed, 26th Jan '11 5:42:54 PM from California Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
I AM NOT GOING TO INCLUDE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH A PENIS VINE INTO THE ARTICLE. THERE IS NO WAY IN A MILLION YEARS I AM GOING TO INCLUDE THAT.

Great Scott do I need some Brain Bleach

edited 26th Jan '11 5:43:18 PM by CalamityJane

This is gonna take a while.
Jane: You don't have to be able to read Japanese, it is just a visual gag.

Anomalocaris: The dimensions space is made of IS WHAT DIMENSION STANDS FOR. Universe is a better description of what you mean. And, Dialga and Palkia can do that same thing as Giratina, so it is not special. The being that exists as a single entity is Arceus, who was able to bring a Dialga back into existance. A Dialga that faded from existance due to a changed past.

EDIT: Oh god, didn't see from exactly where the vine was coming from, I just saw a fun-sized giant legendary getting owned by a Com Mon.

Well, if you are getting the Brain Bleach, remember that flowers are plant genitalia.

edited 26th Jan '11 5:44:47 PM by Eriorguez

 2729 Calamity Jane, Wed, 26th Jan '11 5:45:19 PM from California Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
THEY ARE!?
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 2730 Hydrall, Wed, 26th Jan '11 5:46:38 PM from The Bodhi System Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
The Republic Lives
Yup! Well, it's what's in the flower, but still!

You smell a flower, you're smelling a plant's [REDACTED].
 2731 Anomalocaris 20, Wed, 26th Jan '11 5:46:59 PM from Mr. Bones' Wild Ride Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Suffer for your art
Well, of course Arceus has all 3 of their powers. Anyway, it stands to reason that all 3 powerful beings could travel between universes... in the same way Dialga and Giratina can move through space and Palkia and Giratina move foward in time. The difference is that Giratina doesn't just move between universes, it creates them and commands them the same way Dialga creates and commands time and Palkia creates and commands space.

It's the stamen that are analogous to a penis. Other than releasing sperm via pollen, it's different, though. Technically the fruit is analogous to the ovary, yet it is designed to be consumed.

edited 26th Jan '11 5:49:03 PM by Anomalocaris20

The EYE is protecting Exor!!

General of the Ridley Facepalm Army.
 2732 Calamity Jane, Wed, 26th Jan '11 5:49:25 PM from California Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
So basically Giratina has the power to make various Realities and can mess with one of the reality's rules to fix something it doesn't approve of.

Also FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF- FFFFFFFF I don't want to talk about reproduction right now.

edited 26th Jan '11 5:50:20 PM by CalamityJane

This is gonna take a while.
But Giratina just commands HIS universe, the one opposite of the standard one. The others, they exist, and they have a separate Creation Trio, and an equivalent of the Distorsion world, but the one who seems to create all those is Arceus, not Giratina.

 2734 Calamity Jane, Wed, 26th Jan '11 5:51:48 PM from California Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Eriordriguez, I suggest you watch this and think of Arceus as the commander of the 10th Dimension, while Giratine is the commander of the 6th dimension, Dialga the commander of the 4th dimension, and Palkia as the commander of the 3rd dimension. That's how I see it.

edited 26th Jan '11 5:57:59 PM by CalamityJane

This is gonna take a while.
 2735 Anomalocaris 20, Wed, 26th Jan '11 5:52:08 PM from Mr. Bones' Wild Ride Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Suffer for your art
[up][up]To be honest, the alternate universes in Pokemon extend beyond even Arceus from a meta point of view.

The games don't actually say that Giratina isn't master of dimensions. I just inferred it from what was to me incredibly obvious implication. It would fit as the third axis of reality, anyway.

[up]I don't think that's quite how dimension works. I don't think there's any reason to see time as a fourth dimension to our 3 geometric directions.

edited 26th Jan '11 5:53:15 PM by Anomalocaris20

The EYE is protecting Exor!!

General of the Ridley Facepalm Army.
But that's how dimensions actually work. Reality Is Unrealistic, but it is reality.

Also, those multiple dimensions, stand as ABOVE space and time. Giratina's power is just equal to those of Palkia and Dialga, just works independently of time and space, just like Dialga's time is independant of space, and Palkia's space is independant of time; and both of them are independant of Giratina's power. But Giratina's power is contained within an universe, not outside universes.

 2737 Calamity Jane, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:00:56 PM from California Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Well, that video really blew my mind, and it really helped me understand the Creation Trio in my own personal Fanon, so it definitely gave me a lot of mileage. I can understand if you didn't get as much mileage as I did.
This is gonna take a while.
 2738 Anomalocaris 20, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:08:41 PM from Mr. Bones' Wild Ride Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Suffer for your art
Just watched the video. I've heard of string theory before, but I never gave too much thought to it. I have trouble imagining time to be the 4th simply because we travel through it automatically despite being 3 dimensional, whereas a 2 dimensional person wouldn't be able to travel through a third dimension even automatically. I always pictured the 4th to be along a line perpendicular to length, width, and depth that our eyes and minds cannot percieve. After all, can you concieve of how to cross 4 lines at the same point with 90 degrees between all of them?

Also, I've actually realized that 2-d people couldn't have a digestive track before watching the video. It always struck me as humorous.

edited 26th Jan '11 6:11:27 PM by Anomalocaris20

The EYE is protecting Exor!!

General of the Ridley Facepalm Army.
 2739 Calamity Jane, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:19:08 PM from California Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
I have a bad habit of swallowing whatever I learn like a sponge and forgetting to cross-reference things. It hurts me a lot when I try to research things.

Great scott this is teaching me more than I ever learned in Science Class.
This is gonna take a while.
 2740 Tracer Bullet, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:28:33 PM from A Dark and Rainy Alley
Guess Who...?
@ Jane:

Is Giratina a fan of puzzles? (Skip to around 34:00)
Hard Boiled Detective Since 1985
2-D people could have a digestive system with a single opening. Flat Land is a book that deals with some of this stuff.

 2742 Anomalocaris 20, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:33:29 PM from Mr. Bones' Wild Ride Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Suffer for your art
Yeah, I know they can have single-opening tracks. Like a hydra. Forgot to mention that. They shouldn't have a looping bloodstream if you think about it, either.
The EYE is protecting Exor!!

General of the Ridley Facepalm Army.
 2743 Silent Reverence, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:36:46 PM from 3 tiles right 1 tile up
adopting kitteh
Well, IIUC, they can have a looping bloodstream, or at least grow one via mitosis and whatever biological process for cell escicion (sp?), but I don't think they'll be able to move afterwards.
 2744 Calamity Jane, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:39:22 PM from California Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Now imagine having to go through debates like this in your head every moment of your existence. That's Giratina's life for you.

edited 26th Jan '11 6:39:42 PM by CalamityJane

This is gonna take a while.
 2745 Hydrall, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:40:42 PM from The Bodhi System Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
The Republic Lives
"HOW DO I REPRODUCE? I HAVE NO VISIBLE ORGANS! D:"

"Hm, just gotta grab this sunflower and- Erm... BUT IT IS LINES HOW DOES IT WORK ARGH"

Wonder the thing even survives.
 2746 Anomalocaris 20, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:41:35 PM from Mr. Bones' Wild Ride Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Suffer for your art
[up][up][up]Are you talking about 2 dimensional beings or a hydra? I mean that 2 dimensional beings couldn't have one because it would essentially slice their body up into a jigsaw puzzle.

edited 26th Jan '11 6:41:50 PM by Anomalocaris20

The EYE is protecting Exor!!

General of the Ridley Facepalm Army.
 2747 Calamity Jane, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:46:29 PM from California Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
I think Giratina likes flowers. Because pretty much the only piece of scenery in the Distortion World other than rocks and platforms are sunflowers.
This is gonna take a while.
There are invertebrates that have those. Snails have open circulatory systems, for example.

The problem would be getting 3 different systems to 3 different targets, as it is impossible on a 2-D plane.

Anyway, the problem of string theory and aplying it to Pokemon, is that space and time are intrinsically ligated, and Pokemon separates them.

EDIT: Freaking momentaneous lag messing up my post rate. >_<

But still, Giratina is explicity stated to not be part of the whole time-space deal. Not something beyond it.

edited 26th Jan '11 6:53:46 PM by Eriorguez

 2749 Anomalocaris 20, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:48:51 PM from Mr. Bones' Wild Ride Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Suffer for your art
[up][up]Maybe there's more that our minds can't visualize? For all we know there could be 9-dimensional beings watching us the whole time or something.

[up]I was talking about 2 dimensional beings trying to have a bloodstream. If it goes from point A to point B and then from B to A along a different path, then everything between the two lines is now separate from the rest of the body.

edited 26th Jan '11 6:51:02 PM by Anomalocaris20

The EYE is protecting Exor!!

General of the Ridley Facepalm Army.
 2750 Hydrall, Wed, 26th Jan '11 6:50:18 PM from The Bodhi System Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
The Republic Lives
Wouldn't we see three of their dimensions, then? The first three?

Not that it would likely make much SENSE, but...
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