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The Pokédex - Extended Fanon Edition:

 1 Tangent 128, Fri, 12th Mar '10 3:49:42 PM from Virginia Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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The Pokédex - Extended Fanon Edition

Out-of-date index (as of 7:45 PST, February 28, 2011) below. Click the big fancy link above for the proper one.

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Species
Base #Entry
001Bulbasaur Line
004Charmander Line
007Squirtle Line
010Caterpie Line
013Weedle Line
016Pidgey Line
019Rattata Line
021Spearow Line
023Ekans Line
025Pikachu Line
027Sandshrew Line
029Nidoran Line
035Clefairy Line
037Vulpix Line
039Jigglypuff Line
041Zubat Line
043Oddish Line
046Paras Line
052Meowth Line
054Psyduck Line
058Growlithe Line
060Poliwag Line
064Abra Line
072Tentacool Line
077Ponyta Line
079Slowpoke Line
081Magnemite Line
084Doduo Line
088Grimer Line
092Gastly Line
095Onix Line
096Drowzee Line
100Voltorb Line
102Exeggcute Line
104Cubone Line
106Tyrogue Line
108Lickitung Line
109Koffing Line
111Rhyhorn Line
113Chansey Line
114Tangela Line
115Kangaskhan Line
120Staryu Line
123Scyther Line
129Magikarp Line
131Lapras Line
132Ditto Line
132Ditto Line
137Porygon Line
138Omanyte Line
142Aerodactyl Line
143Snorlax Line
144Articuno
145Zapdos
146Moltres
147Dratini Line
150Mewtwo
151Mew
152Chikorita Line
155Cyndiquil Line
158Totodile Line
161Sentret Line
163Hoothoot Line
170Chinchou Line
175Togepi Line
177Natu Line
179Mareep Line
193Yanma Line
201Unown Line
215Sneasel Line
218Slugma Line
223Remoraid Line
227Skarmory Line
228Houndour Line
231Phanpy Line
226Mantine Line
235Smeargle Line
238Smoochum Line
243Raikou
244Entei
245Suicune
246Larvitar Line
249Lugia
250Ho-Oh
252Treecko Line
255Torchic Line
258Mudkip Line
263Zigzagoon Line
265Wurmple Line
273Seedot Line
280Ralts Line
283Surskit Line
287Slakoth Line
290Nincada Line
293Whismur Line
302Sableye Line
304Aron Line
309Electrike Line
311Plusle Line
312Minun Line
318Carvanha Line
320Wailmer Line
328Trapinch Line
331Cacnea Line
339Barboach Line
345Lileep Line
347Anorith Line
352Kecleon Line
357Tropius (WIP)
359Absol Line
363Spheal Line
366Clamperl Line
371Bagon Line
374Beldum Line
377Regirock
378Regice
379Registeel
382Kyogre
383Groudon
386Deoxys
387Turtwig Line
390Chimchar Line
393Piplup Line
396Starly Line
399Bidoof Line
401Kricketot Line
403Shinx Line
408Cranidos Line
410Shieldon Line
412Burmy Line
418Buizel Line
420Cherubi Line
422Shellos Line
442Spiritomb Line
443Gible Line
447Riolu Line
451Skorupi Line
453Croagunk Line
456Finneon Line
483Dialga
484Palkia
487Giratina
493Arceus

Botany

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Martial Arts

Society

Tech

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Pokémon. Yes. It is the universe of dreams for any boy or girl. Verily, a strong subset of tropers were smitten by its imaginative world, drawn in by the rich variety in Seedot, small Sunkern filled with ultimate potential of some sort. Verily, any emotional biologist's fingers would tingle and eyes would water, tears of blood would be cried at the sight of the beauty of such an open world of horizons that stretch out beyond one's imagination.

Follow me, my dear tropers, and knock black white black thyselves out.

</Fawriel>

OK, seriously, what's the deal?

We all have fond memories of the Pokémon world, and many of us have maintained or rediscovered our fandom over the years. But increasingly, we find the official materials... lacking. Sometimes the Pokédex entries are absurd- particularly egregiously, Onix is apparently less dense than water.

Mostly, we're lacking pretty much every non-battle related bit of information about the world. What kind of nests do Nidoran build? Do wild Charizard care for their young? Who pays to operate Pokémon Centers? Realistically, are any species declared too dangerous to legally train?

And we are...?

Hopefully, creating or collecting the pieces of Fanon to fill in the gaps, making a more coherent and immersive world.

Obviously, creating an "offical" fanon compilation is neither desired nor possible. Many existing fan interpretations are contradictory (Predators? The Char tailflame?), and even the official media has multiple continuities.

How to handle this?

It's probably better to focus on a few topics at a time; once the post on one topic reaches a mature state, another topic or two (depending on breadth) may be opened.

If this approach doesn't work well, we scrap it.

So, we first need to decide where to start. Bulbasaur biology and Pallet Town geography? Or open at a higher level?

Thread inspired by the posts starting here, and by this thread.

edited 26th Nov '11 12:35:38 PM by Tangent128

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 2 Gilphon, Fri, 12th Mar '10 4:00:47 PM from The Third Sound Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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The geography is pretty straightforward and non-contradictory, I think. We can pretty much go with what the games tell us unless some glaring issue surfaces.

Mind I suggest going through the pokedex by number and sorting out each pokemon in order? Or is that a bit too daunting?

Though I do strong suggest that we consider the canonical weights to be a loose guideline at best.
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Weights... How come they don't weigh as much when they go into the ball? Where does the mass go?
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 4 Pipping Fool, Fri, 12th Mar '10 4:21:32 PM from Sydney, The Vivid City Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
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Apparently, Garchomp can fly faster than a Jet.

Despite the fact that it can't fly.

So this is what I think. The reason why it can "Fly" is because it runs so fast, that people think it flies when it can't.
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 5 Kinkajou, Fri, 12th Mar '10 4:23:44 PM from you're not your
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After all, it is the Mach Pokemon.
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 6 Pipping Fool, Fri, 12th Mar '10 4:25:39 PM from Sydney, The Vivid City Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
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GOTTA SPEED UP!

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 7 Gilphon, Fri, 12th Mar '10 4:27:13 PM from The Third Sound Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Even that's kind of ridiculous. Garchomp's no slouch when it comes to speed, but it's nothing particularly special. And how could anyone possibly think it could fly? It doesn't even have wings.

edited 12th Mar '10 4:27:26 PM by Gilphon

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 8 Kinkajou, Fri, 12th Mar '10 4:28:37 PM from you're not your
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Its arms look like wings.

And the disparity between Pokedex data and Game data can be explained by two tropes.

And it has a unique Speed tier. wink

edited 12th Mar '10 4:29:37 PM by Kinkajou

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 9 Ace Of Scarabs, Fri, 12th Mar '10 4:28:42 PM from Singapore Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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I prefer to think that the speed stat takes into account maneuverability and reaction. Not all super-fast pokemon can react in time to surprise attacks.
 10 Kinkajou, Fri, 12th Mar '10 4:30:22 PM from you're not your
We Do Not Sow
ideaSo Garchomp's speed is offset by its size and relative lack of maneuverability?
"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
Looks like it's gliding to me. It "flies" in the sense that a flying fish or flying squirrel does.

edited 12th Mar '10 4:37:01 PM by newtonthenewt

 12 Tangent 128, Fri, 12th Mar '10 4:50:00 PM from Virginia Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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It appears we're starting with Garchomp. evil grin

So, what facts do we want to establish for each Pokémon? Besides sanitizing the 'dex data, it'd be nice to fill in the more mundane aspects as well. So, diet's probably a given.
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 13 Kinkajou, Fri, 12th Mar '10 4:51:45 PM from you're not your
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Obviously, Plant egg types would photosynthesize.

The Treecko line doesn't rely on photosynthesis for energy, but for powering it up.
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 14 Enlong, Fri, 12th Mar '10 4:54:33 PM from The Underground Facility Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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Weights... How come they don't weigh as much when they go into the ball? Where does the mass go?

There's two possible explanations for this: The Special explanation and the anime explanation.

According to Pokemon Special, the 'mons are shrunken to fit the space inside of the ball. Presumably, the tech on pokeballs are capable of screwing with mass and density to shrink them while reducing their weight at the same time.

From what we see in the anime, they explain it by making the 'mons apparently be converted into energy when the enter the pokeball. That raises its own problems (the conversion of mass to energy is enormous. Remember E=MC^2? The "C" is the speed of light).

One possible idea I have is that it works on the same principle as the box system. The 'mons are converted into data, which is stored in the pokeballs, which are actually something like powerful computer capsules that have a calm environment programmed in for the 'mons. When you release them, then the digimon Aelita the pokémon is rematerialized from the data.
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 15 Pykrete, Fri, 12th Mar '10 10:47:53 PM from Viridian Forest
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Also up for debate is just how insulated a pokéball is to outside stimuli.

We've seen them spontaneously break out in the anime, and Wobbuffet's tendency to intrude on conversations and randomly agree with people is even canon to the games.

They're not too shocked by whatever situation they materialize into — though admittedly if you got into half the crazy crap the protagonists of any segment of the franchise do, chances are nothing would make you blink more than once.

They seem to correctly hear any commands given as the pokéball is being thrown, but before it opens. They also appear to anticipate being called on, already in a psyched-up state of asskicking readiness with rare exceptions.

Was?
Just a thought, but people eat pokemon right? I remember reading a bit of fluff somewhere in Pearl about a legend how when humans eat a pokemon they should through it's bones back to return to the earth.

So are there like Tauros and Miltank farms? Are Torchics kept in tiny cages and breed like crazy to fit an insane demand for chicken?

 17 Kinkajou, Fri, 12th Mar '10 11:47:23 PM from you're not your
We Do Not Sow
I thought it was Combusken cultivation.
"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
 18 Enlong, Fri, 12th Mar '10 11:53:55 PM from The Underground Facility Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
I think the "industry" gets excess pokemon from IV breeders who unload their unwanted 'mons.
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 19 Tangent 128, Fri, 12th Mar '10 11:54:22 PM from Virginia Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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So, address Pokéballs early on, and determine edibility of each species? evil grin

Poison types, where edible at all, no doubt require a careful chef.

Though it should be noted that in the "main game" canon where eating Pokémon is mentioned, Pokémon also tend to be portrayed less intelligently than in the anime and Mystery Dungeon games. How do we avoid Moral Dissonance here?

edited 12th Mar '10 11:59:09 PM by Tangent128

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 20 Enlong, Fri, 12th Mar '10 11:57:51 PM from The Underground Facility Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
Assume that there are also "dangerous" 'mons who go after humans?

Go the Touhou route and embrace Carnivore Confusion?

Say "It's all part of the circle of life" and remember that a similar situation exists in real life? (I know there are people who have cows, chickens, etc. as pets)

edited 12th Mar '10 11:59:13 PM by Enlong

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 21 Tangent 128, Sat, 13th Mar '10 12:01:47 AM from Virginia Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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Dangerous mons are show canon, at least. I heard Mystery Dungeon had more bestial opponents in addition to the civilized ones, but I haven't played those games.

Still, any intelligent members of a species would seem to preclude eating any of them.

^^^ "Competitive-style" players also bring up an issue to address. Realistically, perhaps training animals as battlers itself isn't objectionable, given the care and attention they seem to receive, but catching/breeding them by the hundreds and abandoning them in a box/chucking them into the wild seems like pretty clear animal cruelty.
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 22 rumetzen, Sat, 13th Mar '10 12:08:28 AM from Austin, Texas
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I could definently picture a miltank farm. As far as we know, pokemon are the only animals in this world, so it would make sense to eat some of them.

I wonder what different pokemon taste like?
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 23 Enlong, Sat, 13th Mar '10 12:09:38 AM from The Underground Facility Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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What's really dangerous is the downright reckless act of catching certain legendaries.

I mean, don't Dialga and Palkia have a space-time continuum to be regulating or something?
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 24 rumetzen, Sat, 13th Mar '10 12:34:51 AM from Austin, Texas
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Maybe we should each just come up with "data logs" for different pokemon. Something from the perspective of a scientist living with the pokemon in the wild to observe their behavior.
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Look up bulbapedia's article on non-pokémon animals in the pokémon world for more information.
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