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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#6602: Oct 27th 2016 at 7:18:55 PM

And how bad is Konami compared to Capcom?

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#6603: Oct 27th 2016 at 8:50:33 PM

If you believe Jim Sterling, Konami is legendarily bad, both in terms of how it treats its employees and its franchises. Even laying aside what he has to say, the next Metal Gear game is going to be a Left 4 Dead knockoff, and we're never going to get Silent Hills - or even its demo, which has been expunged from the ether.

edited 27th Oct '16 8:51:12 PM by Durazno

AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#6604: Oct 27th 2016 at 9:24:33 PM

They were bad enough that Kojima pulled a Big Boss and started his own Diamond Dogs.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#6605: Oct 30th 2016 at 1:25:12 AM

That said, while I do greatly dislike Konami for how they treat their employees, I can't help but feel that they are Mis-blamed for a few of their actions. Them releasing MGSV as early as it was and without Chapter 3 was due to Kojima and his team going far over budget and behind schedule, and if they did delay it again, it would've made it near impossible to turn a profit from the title. Which may have been the recent they canceled Silent Hills; they may not have simply felt that the investment was worth it, if Kojima ended u going over budget and behind schedule again. Consider that MGSV cost like $80 million, without counting advertising.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#6606: Oct 30th 2016 at 8:10:39 AM

Making Mega Man games is incredibly cheap and easier to do. A 2d, right-to-left platformer with 8 bosses, two castles, and a handful of dialogue-sparse cutscenes is cake in this day and age. The only expansive games were Command Mission and the Legends titles, and those were done many years ago on far weaker hardware.

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#6607: Oct 30th 2016 at 8:45:46 AM

Yeah, but you want your Robot masters to be memorable, because having 8 generics or PRC knockoff bosses isn't going to help your game be memorable.

Also I have too many bad experiences with fangames that rely too much on inherently unfair level design (enemies on top of hills with too much high ground advantage, too many leaps of faith, excessive reliance on instant death traps, that kind of thing).

There's a steam game called 20XX that has pseudo MMX styled gameplay with procedural level generation, but it still needs optimization and refinement.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#6608: Oct 30th 2016 at 9:04:11 AM

It's more like an Elimination Platformer, but ''Copy Kitty has some good level design and creative enemies, plus the powers are nuts and the bosses are great.

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#6609: Oct 30th 2016 at 9:27:57 AM

There's a classic DOS-based fangame, MM 21 XX, that did have some sketchy level designs, but the mavericks were an interesting mix of old and new and the plot though edgy had some sweet unlockable characters. Too bad it was discontinued.

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#6611: Dec 5th 2016 at 12:18:23 PM

Of course all eyes are on Megaman with a statement like this.

I'd enjoy a new Breath of Fire and a new Demon's Crest too, but I don't expect either of those.

I hope whatever Megaman game they might be cooking up is a good idea with some legs to it.

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#6612: Dec 5th 2016 at 12:20:14 PM

I wonder if it will be a new series, or a reboot or new installment for an old one. (Assuming it's Mega Man to begin with.)

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#6613: Dec 5th 2016 at 12:26:41 PM

I think doing a new Mega Man series is the way to go personally. I'm tired of Classic and I don't think a new installment in an old Mega Man subfranchise is what the series needs right now.

It's fine if they want to make retro-focused games but I don't think that they should be ONLY doing that, and they shouldn't be 8-bit games anymore.

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#6614: Dec 5th 2016 at 12:38:15 PM

I definitely agree with no more Classic, but I wouldn't mind a new Battle Network.

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#6615: Dec 5th 2016 at 12:40:19 PM

Battle Network ended pretty cleanly though. What's the point of bringing that back?

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#6616: Dec 5th 2016 at 12:45:11 PM

I just like the gameplay.

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#6617: Dec 5th 2016 at 12:48:07 PM

Well, there isn't really another game series like it for one. It's also a series that would get a lot of mileage from internet features- Star Force kind of floundered on where it tried to pick up, so I feel like online battles never truly got to shine with the series.

I've always wondered if it'd be a good idea to bring Battle Network back as a mobile franchise. It already has the pieces to where adding your usual freemium stuff wouldn't be too jarring, and card collecting games are just ALL the rage these days.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6618: Dec 5th 2016 at 1:16:04 PM

I've always said Battle Network was ahead of it's time, and would have really sailed in the current Handheld era (with Wifi making it possible to trade from just about anywhere, along with street passing).

I do wonder if the Switch will have a similar feature for when you take it with you or not.

As for the return of Mega Man....how's that feel Inafune?tongue

That being said, if Capcom botches it, then I suppose he'll feel pretty good.....

....until he makes another (perceived to be) awful game.

edited 5th Dec '16 1:16:58 PM by HandsomeRob

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AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#6619: Dec 5th 2016 at 4:45:08 PM

A TRUE Battle Network App that lets you netbattle from your smartphones would have been BOSS. Include swiping animation for setting your chips.

Make it so you can scan a few QR codes every day for some free chips, and make it cross-compatible across Android, iOS, and Windows Mobile and you're golden.

edited 5th Dec '16 4:45:35 PM by AceOfScarabs

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#6620: Dec 5th 2016 at 7:57:41 PM

An app that turns your phone into a PET would be hella cool. I'd also have a very hard time resisting shouting things like "Long Sword, Battle Chip IN! Download!" when netbattling.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#6621: Dec 5th 2016 at 8:34:15 PM

Unfortunately Battle Network was just a few years ahead of its time. Even if the actual internet in those games was complete bananas.

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#6622: Dec 5th 2016 at 9:17:20 PM

I wonder if today's kids would accept the premise.

Jaryl from Austria Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#6623: Dec 5th 2016 at 9:32:47 PM

They'd probably call Net Navis a rip-off of Siri

edited 5th Dec '16 9:33:05 PM by Jaryl

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6624: Dec 5th 2016 at 9:55:36 PM

Technically, I'd say it's the other way around.

Though Siri isn't anywhere near as advanced as a Netnavi.

In fact, a lot of things about Battle Network are somewhat predictive.

P.E.T.s (especially as they grew smaller) are somewhat reminiscent of Cell Phones turning into Smart Phones (and Smart Phones are more or less P.E.T.s too).

Of course, there' s the far less humorous prediction of modern cyber crime.

Battle Network still goes pretty crazy with connecting shit like Ovens to the internet, but that's just how things are.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#6625: Dec 5th 2016 at 10:50:42 PM

Imo, that's one of the reasons the Battle Network series has held up so well, if only for the amount of Values Resonance that it has.


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