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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#1026: Mar 2nd 2016 at 3:14:09 AM

[up] The commentary of "Roswell that Ends Well" says otherwise, as they ask the same question of the Y Chromosome. Plus the Fridge Brilliance mentioned of why Yancy is paranoid. wild mass guessI think Fry's lack of a Delta Brainwave is because of his weird, bootstrap Y chromosome. Something that utterly abnormal would be wholly unique, which may got to explain why Fry's the only person who doesn't . I still think Yancy has the same abnormality and was frozen somewhere as a back-up. Fanfiction, do your duty!

The oddities of Fry's genealogy expands beyond him. Yancy Jr is his own great-uncle and great-nephew, Philip Fry II(his kid and Farnsworth's ancestor) is own first cousin once and twice removed, and Professor Farnsworth is his own distant cousin of sorts. Also, all the OC kids you make with Fry and Leela? They're also his uncles/aunts and great-grandkids. The only way this is going to get more confusing is if Fry became both of his grandfathers. On a side note, if Fry's father and son are the same person, then Mildred's maiden name was almost certainly Fry. The grandfather Yancy mentioned must've been Mildred's father.

On the issues of Timey-Wimey Ball, the Cryogenics Lab can get really confusing. Within an hour-long period, there are four version of Fry in the same room: the pilot Fry, the Fry from "The Why of Fry", the Fry from "Bender's Big Score" and the paradox duplicate that became Lars Fillmore. There's also three Benders; the one sent back to kill Fry, the paradox duplicate that eventually killed Lars/Nudar and the one from the end of the movie. Fry even ends up being in the same tube with his own self. I have to wonder what the cryogenic in charge thought when he saw the security footage.

NateWinchester Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
#1027: Mar 2nd 2016 at 4:37:50 AM

As I recall the commentary confirmed they didn't think about it much.

And that's why I'm saying maternal makes more sense, because rather than a paradox of a self-existing Y chromosome, you have a perfectly explained X chromosome that works out without any paradox or issue. (as well as explain the line, "You're named yancy like me and like your grandfather" when the grandfather Fry replaced was named Enos, I've also yet to find in the episode any line confirming Enos' or Mildred's last name leaving the exact parentage open)

Which is funny because even as the futurama wiki has the paternal grandfather listed, they did also have:

"Although he was originally the father of Yancy Fry Sr., he bears a strong resemblance to Mrs. Fry."

So all I'm saying is that the writers could retract themselves and say it was his maternal grandmother without contradicting anything in show and reducing the contradictions in show.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#1028: Mar 5th 2016 at 10:18:24 PM

A Fishful of Dollars: At the end of the episode, everyone but Fry and Zoidberg hates the anchovies. Are anchovies considered a niche food, or is this some in-joke by the writers? I ask because I'm a big fan of anchovies on my pizza, but my mom and sister aren't.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#1030: Mar 12th 2016 at 3:50:16 AM

Going on about Fry, here's a challenge: try determining exactly how each member of his family is related to the other, exactly and with the terminology. Fry is a head-ache in himself: he's his own grandfather/grandson, great-great-grandfather/great-great grandson and add two greats infinitely. Yancy Fry Sr is his son, father, great-grandfather, great-grandson and add two greats eternally all at once. Yancy Fry Jr is his brother, grandson, granduncle, great-great grandson, great-great granduncle and you get the point. Philip Fry II is his nephew, great-grandson, first cousin once removed and not an endlessly repeating nephew for once. Finally, the OC daughter he has with Leela is also his half-aunt, great-granddaughter, great-grandaunt and oh God my brain.

This is why time travel hasn't been invented; to prevent insane family trees like this.

ArcanGenth Since: Aug, 2009
#1031: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:12:16 AM

Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to conceive...

NateWinchester Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
#1032: Mar 12th 2016 at 12:53:39 PM

[up][up]Still works if he's the maternal grandfather too (save for papa Yancy is swapped with mama Fry).

Now what is Hubert to Fry? evil grin

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#1033: Mar 12th 2016 at 7:18:28 PM

[up] A distant nephew, grandson and cousin removed all the same. Also, I always assumed Fry's dad was his son. Mildred has the same hair color as Yancy, the commentary and directors believe so, and I don't think Fry is dumb enough to forget which grandparent is which. Also, Yancy Fry Sr says he was named after his grandfather and so on, which clearly implies something(I'm guessing that Yancy is Mildred's father, as she was an unwed mother). Let's not forget that if his legal father was Enos, then that gives Fridge Brilliance on his paranoia.

It's worth noting that a grandparent and granchild have a 25% DNA overlap, the same as half-siblings or cousins, so there'd be less So Fry being stupid doesn't necessarily have to be because he's inbred, it could just be he inherited that from his mom. If Mildred's full name is Mildred Fry, his genetic code is 50% Gleisner, 25% Mildred and 25% himself. His dad would be 50% Mildred, 25% Mrs Fry and 25% himself.

I know that raises the question of Fry's Y chromosome, but I think that perfectly explains why he's the only person in the universe without a Delta Brainwave. If that Y chromosome has no real origin, it would be different from every other chromosome in existence, explaining his uniqueness. Granted, the same could be said of a quarter of his genetic code, but as mentioned the writers were clearly going for his father's side.

I have to wonder how the Nibblonians discovered that this schmuck on a planet inhabited by psychotic apes learned that one guy out of everyone in existence lacked the Delta Brainwave

NateWinchester Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
#1034: Mar 14th 2016 at 7:32:25 AM

A distant nephew, grandson and cousin removed all the same. Also, I always assumed Fry's dad was his son. Mildred has the same hair color as Yancy, the commentary and directors believe so, and I don't think Fry is dumb enough to forget which grandparent is which.

Also, Yancy Fry Sr says he was named after his grandfather and so on, which clearly implies something(I'm guessing that Yancy is Mildred's father, as she was an unwed mother). Let's not forget that if his legal father was Enos, then that gives Fridge Brilliance on his paranoia.

Fry who is too dumb to push a button would mix up his grandparents? And while mildred's hair color matches Yancy, Fry's hair color AND style matches Gleisner. That's what I quoted earlier from the wiki: "Although he was originally the father of Yancy Fry Sr., he bears a strong resemblance to Mrs. Fry." and on her entry: "Mrs. Fry is redhead and she even looks like Enos Fry, her former father-in-law. She often wears casual clothes."

Also, so being his own grandfather explains Yancy's paranoia, but not Mrs Fry's noted foolishness? Heck swap her sports obsession with Star Trek and she's practically a clone of her son.

I know the powers that be had it in mind, but I'm saying they could "switch" the canon right now and nothing would be invalidated and (if anything) far more would end up making sense without paradoxes.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#1035: Apr 4th 2016 at 12:19:10 AM

Trying to figure out Bender's age in Bender' Big Score is killing me. Can I get your guys help? For guidance, it may be better to figure out just what Bender stole/how many valuable historical treasures there are. There are let some concrete know-how on his timeline:

  • Bender was created in 2996, making him 3 when the series started, and six when he first went back in time
  • His head spent 1055 years in the ground because of Roswell. His body didn't, but I don't count that because his personality is in his head. So his age increases to 1058
  • Bender's Big Score happened in 3007, so Bender was 1063
  • The first thing he stole was the Mona Lisa before it was finished. So about 1503-6. I'd say 1505, increasing his age to 2565
  • He then stole stuff in 1351 BC, making him 6923
  • The other confirmed dates later on add 2713 years on him.

NateWinchester Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
#1036: Apr 4th 2016 at 4:16:16 AM

I have to leave for work but in one issue of the comic they actually addressed this (I think it was in the 10k range) so I'll check my backlog when I get off.

oh wait, the wiki has: "In the comic, "Rust in Peace", it is revealed that Bender, due to too much time travelling, must be inserted into a renewed unit. Farnsworth determines his age to be 27,203 before moving him to his new body. But 27,203 seems a lot less than what would be a quick educated guess. 27,203 would require Bender to have gone at least about a thousand years back each time and only gone 27 times, or instead gone more years back and done fewer than 27 times. But regardless of the ordeal, the amount of Benders appearing at the end of Bender's Big Score seems to contradict this fact. The event in the comic is thus not considered canon. "

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#1037: Apr 4th 2016 at 3:59:35 PM

As it mentions, that doesn't work. Anywho, some of the other things Bender stole was Jesus' cross, Van Gogh's Sunflowers(1888), the Gutenberg Bible(1450s), Michelangelo's David(1504), Venus De Milo(c130 BC), The Ten Commandments(1261 BC) and a Moai Head(c.1500 BC). So we can up his age to 25,727

Lawyerdude Citizen from my secret moon base Since: Jan, 2001
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#1039: Dec 13th 2016 at 11:19:10 AM

"What are Smizmars?" Really? A Smizmar, in Amphibiosan culture, is "one who inspires great feelings of love in another, such that their body enters a state where they can receive genetic material for reproduction." A colloquial term in English may be "Beloved".

May as well ask what a Fonfon Ru is. It means "One who does not sleep with my superior officer." Seriously, that's the literal translation.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#1040: Jun 20th 2017 at 10:37:41 AM

Even when it had a legit send-off, it STILL never dies! evil grin

And here's another with more ego...

Sabertooth1000000000 Sabertooth from Land of the Livid Dead Since: Jul, 2010
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#1041: Jun 21st 2017 at 4:24:08 PM

That teaser exemplified everything I hated about the new Futurama. Stay dead, please.

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#1042: Jun 21st 2017 at 5:15:31 PM

Aw, it's just a gaaaammmeee?

Thought it was interesting...

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1043: Jun 22nd 2017 at 5:37:44 AM

That did look kind of neat but... Futurama making a gag out of the mobile game/Pokemon Go craze does seem a little late...

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#1044: Oct 3rd 2017 at 11:16:26 AM

Futurama flies to Syfy November 11.

Before anyone thinks "new episodes", I think it's more like Syfy is just being allowed to show the 100+ episodes of Futurama.

Makes sense, it is a sci-fi show and all.

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#1045: Oct 3rd 2017 at 11:41:44 AM

[up] New episodes or not, it's still a cause for celebration, I say.

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DokemonStudios Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#1046: Oct 20th 2017 at 5:11:40 PM

Good news, everyone! All of Futurama, including the first four seasons, is available on Hulu. However, I should note that just like Netflix, a lot of the episodes are out of order than what you would find on the DVD. That's because they went with the air date order instead of the production order of episodes.

edited 20th Oct '17 5:13:54 PM by DokemonStudios

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#1047: Dec 2nd 2017 at 9:05:58 AM

I bought the DV Ds, and I noticed the episodes (at least for season one) are kinda stripey. That is, you can see horizontal scan lines in the images, and the frames blur together a bit sometimes. Is this the case for all published DV Ds?

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#1048: Apr 21st 2018 at 4:37:44 PM

A thought I had recently-Harry Truman met Zoidberg, Fry and Leela in Roswell 1947 due to time travel shenanigans. So when Fry meets his head, shouldn't Truman be "wait, how are you even here?" Or whenever Zoidberg visits, Truman should be shocked and confused that this alien is here.

Another consequence is how whatever part of the government helps with the Roswell conspiracy is going to react when Zoidberg's race visited Earth for the first time. Would be interesting if it led to another Been There, Shaped History and Stable Time Loop event.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#1049: Mar 29th 2019 at 6:40:15 PM

Almost missed it, but Futurama S 1 E 1 "Space Pilot 3000" was first shown 20 years ago today.

Happy 20th anniversary!

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#1050: Mar 29th 2019 at 7:08:59 PM

It's easy to forget that the beginning of the pilot already took place in the future, since it was set a few months before it's original airing. So the title was really apt.

Also, this is the year that Project: Satan got off the ground. So, watch out for werecars in the near future.


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