Rename? : Post Dramatic Stress Disorder

(Edit: To summarize the topic...)

Having read the trope for my very first time, turns out it's not what I Thought It Meant.

• Post-traumatic stress disorder long-term emotional and psychological disorder and what put the "shell shocked" into your Shell-Shocked Veteran.
• "Post Dramatic Stress Disorder", well... isn't. Guess That Trope? It's alternately known as a Victory Thud.

I tried drafting a YKTTW for PDSD proper, only to soon learn that apparently we have a trope for it already — called Freak Out.

I'm thinking Post-Dramatic Stress Disorder should be a redirect for Freak Out, because that pun would be Made Of Win.

edited 17th Oct '10 9:58:37 AM by Stratadrake

Victory Thud is a much clearer name. I knew what that meant the moment I read it.

Post-Dramatic Stress Disorder is funny, but Victory Thud has the benefit of being funny, succinct, and acessable. I also got what it meant right away unlike with the former.

I like Victory Thud. However, I had no problem decoding Post-Dramatic Stress Disorder from the name since it is such a common trope.

I worry that Victory Thud will be interpreted as the final time the bad guy goes down in a fight — you know it's all over because of the special Victory Thud.

edited 7th Oct '10 7:21:06 AM by Camacan

I think Victory Thud is a bit too ambiguous. Not to say that the other name is good either. Amusingly, they can work together to create the proper image, but with only one of them I don't think I'd get it.

Post-Victory Collapse?

The name Post-Dramatic Stress Disorder would be Made Of Win if ... if it was actually about PTSD. If we don't have that already, I call Launch Displacement.

I've been brainstorming alternate titles today, but with not much luck.

• Victory Crash
• Victory Collapse
• Victory Faint
• Won The Battle Lost Consciousness

edited 7th Oct '10 9:35:18 PM by Stratadrake

I like Post-Victory Collapse a lot — it covers everything from slumping against the control panel after averting the final countdown to blacking out after winning the big fight.

Post Victory Crashdown? i like the idea that the victory was a mood "high."

The obligatory misuse check:

• WMG.The Wheel Of Time: Misused, appears to reference actual PTSD
• TroperWorks.The Silker Family Saga: Unknown
• Just For Pun: Index. (Links to Wikipedia article)
• Index Syndrome: Just for Fun index.
• TroperWorks.Ice Heart: Unknown
• Characters.Dazzeloids: Misused, context of "a total basket case"

edited 8th Oct '10 11:37:33 AM by Stratadrake

Post Victory Crash? "Crashdown" sounds kind of weird to me.

"Crash" could be a viable option ... (Compare "sugar crash", a common buzzword employed by vitamin/protein based energy drinks.)

• SP Crowner with summary of talking points.

edited 11th Oct '10 10:44:13 AM by Stratadrake

^ yeah, Post Victory Crash sounds much better. my english failed me for a second there.

I'm in favour of Post-Victory Collapse. Unambiguous and straight to the point. Maybe the actual page should include a hyphen in the title?

edited 11th Oct '10 8:17:45 PM by Roxor

I think it's crowner time.

Do we have a trope for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? I know we have Shell-Shocked Veteran, but that's for the soldier stereotype and the disorder is used in fiction in far more than just soldiers.

Well we could always do a trope displacement. Move the current trope over to the new name and make the current name about what it sounds like. There's precedent for it.

Only the current name is a pun: Post-Dramatic Stress Disorder and shima is talking about Post Traumatic Stress Disorder which is not referred to as Post-Dramatic Stress Disorder — launching a page on PSTD as a trope is a subject for another thread I think.

edited 11th Oct '10 9:30:19 PM by Camacan

I believe someone showed that some of the examples are making references to PTSD. I may be misremembering though, I'll go check up the thread a ways. Yeah, post ten. Several misuses making references to PTSD.

edited 11th Oct '10 9:59:21 PM by Deboss

I like the idea of Post-Dramatic Stress Disorder being our cute name for the fictionalized version of the disorder, which like anything, is treated different than its real world equivalent.

The name is different from, but an opaque reference to the real thing and the wicks suggest people are getting that.

A page titled Post Traumatic Stress Disorder sounds more suited to Useful Notes.

I do like Post-Dramatic Stress Disorder for our version maybe with a useful notes page of how it works in the real world. In fiction land though it does tend to be caused by anything dramatic for sake of the story. Not the way it's treated IRL.

I actually drafted a YKTTW for PTSD in fiction, and it was pointed out that it's almost the precise definition of a Freak Out — which itself mentions PTSD by name.

Crowner isn't hooked yet, but I did include that bit as one of the talking points.

edited 12th Oct '10 12:14:44 AM by Stratadrake

There's also Shell-Shocked Veteran which covers post-PTSD burnout.

I think it was mentioned that Shell-Shocked Veteran is a Characterization Trope rather than an event. I am under the impression that we're supposed to have both.

edited 12th Oct '10 6:42:46 AM by Deboss

Shell Shocked Veterans have PTSD as one of their defining traits, but they also need to be veterans which implies a military background of some sort as well as a number of other factors. PTSD on the other hand is a trope used for a much wider variety of characters and we should have more than just a reference to it in another trope. Character types can have tropes that must be associated with them.