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It's not as hard to set up as you might think: Sabo by his own admission hates everyone in the WG equally, even good ones like Fujitora, and Vivi's not just any WG member, she's technically a World Noble.

edited 15th Jan '18 6:47:21 PM by HamburgerTime

Is it well known that Vivi flat out travelled with Luffy? I mean, I know that credit for stopping the war was given to Smoker, but I assume that some of the real story leaked into the underworld or something and I'd assume the rebels would have caught wind of it.

At the very least, Vivi would possibly bring up that she met Ace back during the early point of the Alabasta arc.

I'm very aware of Sabo's Hates Everyone Equally mentality (and have also suggested the possibility of conflict between him and Vivi, with Luffy forced to choose), but I'm wondering how devoted he is to that. Then again, it may also stem from a bad case of You Are What You Hate and some class based My Species Doth Protest Too Much.

He hates that he was a part of that system, and feels he has to destroy it himself. I'm curious as to whether he'd ease up on Vivi if he saw proof she was genuinely good and that she and her dad wanted to do right by the world.

Another Reverie guess I have: Cobra's gonna bite it. He's sick and tired and is going to stick his nose in the the World Nobles' business. Definitely seems like a recipe of earning "sixteen holy bullets" in the face.

Didn't we just say he was also kinda a world noble?

I mean, I agree with you, but taking such an act should have massive repercussions.

The nobles has low respect for any nobles not living with them.

Just look at Doffy's family.

The Nefertaris are World Nobles, but of the twenty families they were the only ones that chose not to move to Mariejois and instead continue running their home kingdom. The Mariejois nobles look down on them for this.

The Nefertari's aren't World Nobles; they could have been, but the family turned down the opportunity when presented with it. They're just "standard" royalty.

edited 15th Jan '18 7:14:49 PM by LSBK

So the WN have even more reason to hate them.

I'll go one further and predict Cobra's death may result in Sakazuki gaining a redemptive trait or two. He's already frustrated with the Nobles' antics dragging the WG's name through the mud; what would he do if he saw a Noble execute a sitting head of state and still get a pass from the Elders?

edited 15th Jan '18 7:24:04 PM by HamburgerTime

Blow his top?

The theory is that the World Government is planning to betray her kingdom and will try to capture her to keep the fishmen down and maybe get one of the Ancient Weapoms, assuming they've figured out that she's Poseidon. The Revolutionaries would be launching their own operation to "kidnap" her, really just to keep her out of the WG's hands. Not sure I buy it, but that's what it is.

I do feel that Akainu will gain a few clear-cut redeeming traits by the end of the series, I'm not sure Reverie will be the time but it will probably at least show him getting continuously frustrated with the World Nobles.

I do think the Revolutionaries will become, maybe not direct enemies of Luffy, but definitely not good guys by any stretch of the imagination. I wouldn't be surprised if their endgame is Alma Coin-esque: don't end the oppression, reverse it back onto the original oppressors.

That would be a too out of nowhere way of dealing with a plot point that already has set up to come back up in Caribou knowing that Shirahoshi is Poseidon, and X Drake presumably taking Caribou to Kaido.

edited 15th Jan '18 8:48:01 PM by LSBK

Apropos of nothing, the newest episode of The Unofficial One Piece Podcast just released and its title is “All According to Cakeaku”

Just something that made me chuckle.

And that made me laugh.

edited 16th Jan '18 5:43:09 AM by sgamer82

TL note: Cakeaku means flan

edited 15th Jan '18 10:45:01 PM by Saiga

Good job.

I am wondering if Oda will note to himself not to make such a big family like the Charlottes ever again. Since he has been doing a lot of mistakes with their birth order.

I'm pretty sure he's never gonna attempt such a big family again.

Unless we deal with a WN who has a shit ton slave-spouses & as a result has a shit ton of kids.

...... Which I can see happening.

Pretty sure they'd be more into aborting mother and child instead.

I know almost no one here watches the anime but what are your favorite openings? I love Believe and Brand New World.

Share the World and Brand New World are definite favorites of mine. Post timeskip I also like Hands Up

edited 16th Jan '18 7:21:31 AM by sgamer82

I prefer the ones with a tone more emotional than adventurous (One Day and Hope), but out of the adventurous ones, my favorites are Brand New World, Hikari e, Share the World and Hard Knock Days.

I was hoping someone would say that. That's great!

Believe, Brand New World, and One Day for me.

A thought occurs to me: what if Kaido ate a bunch of different Devil Fruits to try and die but still didn't die and kept all the powers?

Probably not because that's creeping too much into Blackbeard's territory of being the only person with more than one Devil Fruit power at a time, but it still seems like a relatively easy way of killing himself that should probably be addressed for why he didn't do it.