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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#9976: Jul 10th 2016 at 6:27:59 AM

It'd be very stupid from them to kill the Nanoha franchise when they only have Dog Days to fall onto, but it wouldn't be the first time a manganime company does something incredibly stupid and suicidal over completely petty and sexist reasons.

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#9977: Jul 10th 2016 at 6:58:21 AM

...Okay,

Can anyone tell me, enlighten me, what actually happened with all this Yukarin fuss?

Hoki Since: Nov, 2011
#9978: Jul 10th 2016 at 7:01:58 AM

[up][up] That sounds like Dog Days isn't strong enough to keep Seven Arcs afloat.

Also, they can always go back to making hentai.

edited 10th Jul '16 7:02:17 AM by Hoki

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#9979: Jul 10th 2016 at 7:09:41 AM

[up][up]We don't really know. All we know is she announced a split with King Records back in February, but seems to have kept both her music and VA careers ticking over since then.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#9980: Jul 10th 2016 at 8:38:04 AM

Here's the funny thing about all of this: Seven Arcs seem to be trying its best to delete Nanoha's existence from her own franchise in the wake of Yukari Tamura's messy resignation from KING records...
I've seen this sentiment before, and I'm not sure it's true. Nanoha hasn't really been a main character since A's. Strikers focused more on the Forwards with Nanoha as a secondary character (though, admittedly an important one), while Vivid is about Vivio and friends with Nanoha firmly in a supporting role. Hell, Nove is a more important character in Vivid than Nanoha.

That said, I'm generally okay with that. I like it when shows cycle through different main characters rather than running into the DBZ problem of refusing to let anyone but The Hero actually save the day in the end. In a lot of ways, there's not much story left to tell about Nanoha. All her personal growth is pretty much done — she didn't have much in the way of demons to conquer in the first place (being basically the only character in the franchise who doesn't have some sort of traumatic childhood experience to overcome), so other than her relationship with Fate and her employment with the TSAB (both of which are on pretty firm ground by the end of A's), there's not a whole lot more in her character arc. Strikers had some stuff about her as a mother, but she ultimately settled into the role pretty quickly. As of Vivid, she honestly could have been removed from the cast entirely and it wouldn't have affected the plot much.

In any case, it'll be interesting to see where they're going with Vivid Strike. Until October, we'll just have to endure that particular fandom purgatory where we're caught between "man, I'm really looking forward to this" and "man, I really hope this doesn't end up sucking".

edited 10th Jul '16 8:40:32 AM by NativeJovian

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#9981: Jul 10th 2016 at 8:39:43 AM

[up][up][up] If they make hentai again, then they can't be Seven Arcs anymore. That's like Legendary Pictures decides to make some softcore porn. That's just not do.

in the other hand, prospect for hentai loli anime seems to get bigger especially in these later ye-DIVINE BUSTER

edited 10th Jul '16 8:40:28 AM by RBomber

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#9982: Jul 10th 2016 at 8:46:34 AM

Also, they can always go back to making hentai.

Actually, hentai doesn't make that much money anymore. That's why most current hentai anime look like shit (don't ask me how I know, but I'll warn everyone, if you're ever offered a chance to check the Nudist Beach Ni Shuugakuryokou De!! adaptation just say no AND RUN!!!!) and why most current hentai manga are in doujin (which aren't intended to make profits, at least not in a corporative scale).

It's the era where anyone can find tons of real life and doujin porn in the web for free after all.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#9983: Jul 10th 2016 at 8:48:35 AM

*looms ominously*

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Hoki Since: Nov, 2011
#9985: Jul 10th 2016 at 2:19:10 PM

If they make hentai again, then they can't be Seven Arcs anymore. That's like Legendary Pictures decides to make some softcore porn. That's just not do.

Seven Arcs started from making hentai, one of which (and probably the most well known from them) is Night Shift Nurses. Nanoha is literally their first non-hentai franchise, and arguably the most successful one as well.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#9986: Jul 11th 2016 at 12:55:12 AM

[up] Technically, before making Nanoha a spin-off franchise of the Traingle Heart series, they did the third game's sequel OVA

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#9987: Jul 11th 2016 at 6:28:14 AM

Wasn't Nanoha's childhood trauma the fact that she was largely ignored by her parents when she was little due to her father's injuries?

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#9988: Jul 11th 2016 at 6:37:11 AM

Well, kind of, although me myself wouldn't call it exactly a trauma....

But I'm not having psychology education so it's not exactly my call.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#9989: Jul 11th 2016 at 8:05:15 AM

Yeah, Nanoha was sort of a lonely kid when she was little (like, even younger than we see her in the original series), but she still had a loving family who did their best for her, even if they didn't always have as much time for her as any of them would have wanted.

Compare this to Fate (has Cloning Blues and a physically and emotionally abusive mother), Chrono (father died when he was young), Hayate (no family, crippling illness), Subaru (combat cyborg, mother died, nearly died herself in the airport fire), Teana (raised by her brother after her parents died, brother also died later), Erio (artificial mage, abandoned by his would-be family, subjected to experiments), Caro (exiled by her tribe), Vivio (artificial mage, forced to power a magical superweapon), the Numbers (combat cyborgs, used as living weapons), Einhart (tormented by memories inherited from a distance ancestor), etc etc.

About the only main characters in the entire franchise with relatively normal backstories other than Nanoha are Corona and Rio.

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APN Since: Sep, 2011
#9990: Jul 12th 2016 at 11:57:50 AM

Looks like season 2 of Vivid anime is coming in 2017 (bottom left): http://imgur.com/e5aLTPg

The news came out in a Pachinko article: http://surokan-matome.blog.jp/archives/8215044.html

Just need to wait for official confirmation.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#9991: Jul 12th 2016 at 12:05:54 PM

Well, that certainly does say "Vivid", "2", and "2017", but hell if I can read moonrunes.

Seems odd that that sort of thing would show up first in an article about pachinko, though.

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#9992: Jul 12th 2016 at 3:28:36 PM

>Pachinko

#FucKonami

edited 12th Jul '16 3:28:45 PM by Deadbeatloser22

"Yup. That tasted purple."
EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Fandom Heretic
#9993: Jul 12th 2016 at 5:18:01 PM

WE LOST FORCE AND MOVIE 3RD FOR THIS?! tongue

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#9994: Jul 12th 2016 at 5:24:30 PM

Japan's obsession with Pachinko is starting to creep me out.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#9995: Jul 12th 2016 at 6:08:09 PM

Does every franchise need a gambling machine?

Even Vegas has class.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#9996: Jul 12th 2016 at 6:18:31 PM

Between Haruhi, Black Lagoon and now Nanoha, I think Pachinko is where anime franchises go drag themselves off while dying.

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#9997: Jul 12th 2016 at 6:19:37 PM

AFAIK, Vegas was basically forced at gunpoint (or taxpoint, not really sure) to basically build into class, or else. Japan has no such force or motivation.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#9998: Jul 12th 2016 at 6:26:53 PM

Im wondering if contracts were written specifically via King Records and not allow her to work on Nanoha via another company, resulting in this.

Contracts can be stupid like that, I mean the whole reason why there will never be a digital version of any of the Kingdom Hearts games because of Utada Hikaru's contract states her music can never be a digital download.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
shanejayell Since: Jun, 2011
#10000: Jul 15th 2016 at 7:28:10 AM

But is that 'Vivid Strike' rather than season 2?

Or are BOTH projects going ahead? tongue


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