Neon Genesis Evangelion

I'd rather he not, because he already went into severe depression because of the former.

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He tried the former with 3.0, and we all saw how that turned out for him. He went into another depression as a result.

Suffice to say, it really sucks to be Anno right now....

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I don't think being Anno in general is fun.

He's successful, respected, globally known, has a lot of good friends in the industry, an apparently happy marriage, is seemingly well economically... at this point, if he's depressed, it must be mostly because of his own volition rather than life being harsh to him.

i agree that life is pretty good to him in a lot of ways, but successful people can still get depressed.

Please don't speak of depression like that, it's rather upsetting. There's no sort of permanent solution to depression, no cure, no immunity. Saying that people are only depressed because they make it so themselves is blaming people for being nothing but human. It's ignoring their circumstances and judging them without actually making things better.

I suffer depression myself, but if I were in Anno's position, which is waaaaaaaay above mine, I'd like to think I'd have used it to make myself less miserable. We can argue all we want about money and popularity not making happiness, but they at least make it easier to access to resources to help you get out of the hole.

And Anno is kind of big himself in the 'you make your own misery' theme, which is a point that constantly is hammered to Shinji even when he's trapped in the middle of powers beyond his control.

edited 12th Jan '16 5:53:22 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

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Haven't we had this conversation before?

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Perhaps, Anno's mental state is something that will always be talked about.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

We've had every conversation that could be related to EVA several times over by now.

Yes, but did we have a conversation about how we relate to EVA ourselves? About the meaning of our search for meaning?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

I think so, yes.

You know, I've been thinking of making an entry for Asuka's father in Characters.Neon Genesis Evangelion Other Characters, since he technically does make an appearance in a flashback by Asuka during Episode 22 (albeit with his back towards us, and in grayscale), and Gainax went through the trouble of giving him actual lines.

So... What tropes should be assigned to him? I have the following so far.

• Abusive Parents
• Extramarital Affair (aka Your Cheating Heart)
• O.C. Stand-in (he is so much of a nearly-blank slate that fanfic authors have a lot of leeway in how they depict him, though he seems destined to be portrayed as an iredeemable egocentric asshole who only cares about Asuka as far as it would benefit him.)
• Only One Name ("Langley" obviously comes from him, so we know his surname. And that's it so far, since Gainax/Anno did not see fit to elaborate on him, unlike with Kyouko given an actual appearance in the main manga and the SIRP spin-off manga, or Hikari's sisters being finally illustrated very recently.)
• Parent with New Paramour
• Parental Abandonment

Anything else? I'm not sure if Parental Neglect may apply to him.

edited 18th Jan '16 11:24:30 AM by MarqFJA

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Parental Neglect fits him. When Kyoko went insane, Asuka, as a young child, was in dire need of parental attention to cope with the trauma. Yet this guy spent his time boning a mistress instead, not giving a single damn about what his daughter was going through.

I am so using that as the description for Parental Neglect's entry, if I may have your permission. It's so perfect.

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You have.◊

Might as well talk about my favorite character Rei and thoughts on her (again XD).

I was discussing her with a few other people on Reddit, and this is what they had to say about her:

"Besides Rei's appearance, she is too creepy to like. Her entire personality upon her first being introduced is based around wanting to serve Gendo.

Granted, she does develop later into the series, she still remains mostly a human doll. She's certainly interesting and well written, but that doesn't change the fact that she was purposefully written to be someone who seems almost completely empty of any emotional intelligence.

Whereas characters like Shinji, Asuka, and Misato all showcase incredible depth throughout the series where they show just how real these characters are. I can sympathize with Shinji's anxiety. I can sympathize with Asuka's want to be independent. I can sympathize with Misato trying to fill a void in her life. I feel like I can only pity Rei for being barely human."

What say you guys? Is Rei truly a sympathetic character.

I think Rei's storyline isn't well focused. It happens in the background, and as such, she doesn't seem creepy or inhuman enough to start with, nor is her transition to someone who is decidedly human—with healthier goals and desires—distinct enough.

Anno needed Rei to be at least a little human so that her loss would hit Shinji hard—they needed to be friends. I think that actually undermined the creepiness of her. The most that can be said in the end is that her existence itself is unsettling, but she is not.

I don't think Anno went far enough for us to go through Rei's journey of becoming human—and perhaps it's better that we didn't, actually. But the note she strikes is, I feel, a little confused. It's not squarely creepy, nor is it fully sympathetic. Maybe there's something realistic in that.

Author of The Second Coming (NGE) and The Coin (Haruhi).

I find that there are just enough hints in the story to make me care for and sympathize for her. But I admit, he could have given her more.

Hence why I really like the fact that he expanded on her character in the Rebuild saga.

Which confuses me, since Anno already expressed his dislike for how became popular among the fandom despite him deliberately trying to make her as creepy and off-putting as he could (which probably says more about Anno's lack of understanding of how the minds of the fandom in question tend to work), and IINM even during his work on Rebuild he seems to still hold that opinion.

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Well, I believe Rei-Q is the closest to the original idea Anno had for Rei, and we know how much hated she became after everyone saw 3.33

I do wish Anno would take his time with 3.0 +1.0 if that means we get more character development.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.

Does anyone know if there are any differences bonus/feature-wise between the Eva 3.33 BD and DVD? If there's a significant price difference between the formats without a whole lot of difference between the discs, I might be cheap and buy the DVD.

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