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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#42301: Sep 15th 2015 at 11:46:34 AM

Kindred is a designed to be a jungler.

Too bad their kit is done so that they'll NEVER be played in the jungle, as they'd be the best bot-lane ADC.

OrangeSpider Must Keep The Web Intact from Ursalia Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Must Keep The Web Intact
#42302: Sep 15th 2015 at 11:56:56 AM

I find that kit particularly uninteresting.

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Tatsumar Since: Mar, 2011
#42303: Sep 15th 2015 at 12:24:35 PM

i'm gonna rp as them i'm gonna do it

Deer
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#42304: Sep 15th 2015 at 12:44:19 PM

Kindred's passive looks really cool, and I'm curious how it'll work out in-game, but the rest of the kit is fairly meh. Even the ult reminds a bit too much of Bard in how it affects everyone equally.

They look cool as hell, though.

OrangeSpider Must Keep The Web Intact from Ursalia Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Must Keep The Web Intact
#42305: Sep 15th 2015 at 1:52:55 PM

The voice over is pretty okay, though.

The Great Northern Threadkill.
RabidTanker God-Mayor of Sim-Kind Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
#42306: Sep 18th 2015 at 11:53:59 PM

I'm kind of confused on how I'm supposed to kill enemy champions here. I know this is an arms race, but I can't seem to deal a lot of damage them without dying myself.

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kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#42307: Sep 19th 2015 at 1:08:04 AM

Patience is the name of the game, typically, but it depends what role and champion you're playing, and what role and champion your opponent/target is playing.

Take for example, a game I played today: I was ADC Kalista with a support Vi, against an ADC Ashe with a support soraka.

Soraka is super-heals in the early game, and Ashe has decent long-term damage but little burst damage. Vi is disruptive and demands attention, while Kalista is flighty and has decent burst damage. Ashe is actually decent against Kalista in lane because she has better over-time damage in the early game, and can slow Kalista, which lessens Kalista's major advantage.

So, taking that information into account. If I had face-fought Ashe, I'd have lost pretty hard in the early game. Our opponents were fairly well organized to put up a consistent fight, while Vi and Kalita together do most of our stuff over bursts. So what we wound up doing was baiting them into a bunch of small fights, or poking from afar, until we felt confident in a fight that we could either push them out of lane or get a kill. Then Vi dashed in, stunning them briefly and grabbing their attention while I hopped around the backline putting spears into them until I could rend them for the kill. As a result we did well in lane, and I got fed enough to get an overall 20/2/4.

In most lanes all you really want to focus on is C Sing, dodging your opponent's harass, and harassing them when you think you have a free moment. The early game is all about farm and survival. From there on out things tend to snowball, and how you avoid death depends on your champion. Some champions are built tough, so you just wade into the fight and disrupt it for your squishier, more damaging teammates. Some champions hang back and deal massive damage from afar. Some champions do a mix of both, able to hold their own in fights by virtue of being stronger in their opponent's weakness than the opponent is strong in their strength.

Short answer: Early game you poke, trade and farm, and hope that by late game you're in a good enough spot for teamwork to kick in effectively.

And remember, even if you or your team isn't fed they can still fulfill their roles. That match history I posted looks more even then it was - once it transitioned to teamfight phase it was a stomp because my whole team could distract the enemy while I dealt massive damage. Sometimes being a meat shield is valuable.

edited 19th Sep '15 1:18:17 AM by kegisak

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ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#42308: Sep 19th 2015 at 1:10:06 AM

Depends on what your situation is, man. Are you laning or are you trying to ambush? If you're laning, I hope you do your trades and pokes well, and when opportunity presents itself (as in, you can score a kill without getting killed), go all in and kick ass.

Ambushing takes a harder approach. You need to make sure you can keep down the enemy until they die, and it'll be better off if they're not in full health. But the best thing is, if you are alone and there are more than 1 enemies, don't push your luck unless you can kill both of them.

RabidTanker God-Mayor of Sim-Kind Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
#42310: Sep 19th 2015 at 5:51:12 PM

I was laning in PvE with that locust guy from the Void last night. As you could guess, I spent my time pouncing and spamming Void Spikes on the minions until I got Evolved Wings...and got addicted to farm them as we took out their towers. I noticed that our Jinx was on a killstreak, so I tried her in my next game. I liked the switchable weapons mechanic, but I kept dying to the Champions. Which is why I spent the last few minutes hiding in a bush, autoattacking the minions as they ran past me.

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Joaqs Técnico Electromecánico from Argentina Since: Jul, 2009
Técnico Electromecánico
#42311: Sep 19th 2015 at 10:29:36 PM

Kindred's ult is going to frustrate so many people, Bard + Kindred for a trolling duo.

Well, Jinx is an adc and adc's start weak but when they get items they become killing machines. So I would say that first focus on farming the minions until you have at least one item finished (boots doesn't count) that doesn't mean that if you can kill the enemie or take dragon you shouldn't but that they are secondary to farming.

Also going from the kill with the enemie at full health is hard while laning, that is why you poke them either they stay at low health and risk being killed or they go back to base and loose gold and experience. If you want to poke the enemies with Jinx remember that the missiles give Jinx some extra range and aoe to her attacks but cost mana for each attack so switching to them for one or two attacks on the enemie and use the increased range to poke safely. Also try to poke when the enemies when they go for the last hit so that they can't attack you.

Once you have ítems remember that adc's are glass cannons, you can kill almost every enemie but if you are stuned or bursted you are going to die. So if you want to kill someone and they are not alone or are an assasin or high burst mage, don't go alone, go with and ally preferably with the support (if the support has a stun even better). Remeber that as an adc you should almost never initiate a team fight.

edited 19th Sep '15 10:35:25 PM by Joaqs

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#42312: Sep 20th 2015 at 10:46:13 AM

[up][up]You're dying a lot because Kha'Zix is an Assassin.

That and he's a pick-off champion, ie: You shouldn't go after a whole group, you should go one-by-one (his passive should have given you a hint on that)

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#42313: Sep 20th 2015 at 9:13:11 PM

also keep in mind that attacking out of a bush reveals you and everyone else around you to the enemy team. ADC's are glass cannons much like Kha'Zix. you want to save your jumps for surprising and killing enemy champions, not on minions :)

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#42315: Sep 22nd 2015 at 8:14:13 AM

Kick him. That's what the rules say, and he's certainly part of unethical behavior.

Besides, if they don't enforce their rules now, then it will mean trouble later on.

edited 22nd Sep '15 8:14:48 AM by EpicBleye

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HazzyHaz Slice and Dice Since: Oct, 2011
Slice and Dice
#42316: Sep 22nd 2015 at 9:55:19 AM

He owns a Challenger Team. That's a far sight from an actual LCS team, so the contracts are likely to be a lot more loose than those for LCS.

RabidTanker God-Mayor of Sim-Kind Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
#42317: Sep 22nd 2015 at 11:15:26 AM

[up]x3: And this is wrong, how? Sure, the sudden price hike is kind of unfair; but if it actually leads to something less toxic and more effective, then it'll be worth it.

edited 22nd Sep '15 11:16:24 AM by RabidTanker

Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#42318: Sep 22nd 2015 at 11:23:46 AM

The issue that it isn't true. They were already making a profit with the drug even with the research. Plus the fact that it suddenly makes a ton of diseases too expensive to treat.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#42319: Sep 22nd 2015 at 1:04:13 PM

[up][up] Nah, they won't change the drug at all. They just bought the right to sell it, they have no plan to improve it in any way, except if you only consider the financial benefits as the sole way to evaluate the efficiency of a drug.

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#42320: Sep 22nd 2015 at 5:59:56 PM

They've said the same thing with their other purchases when they did the same thing, they never once bothered to do additional research. It's purely price gouging for money. Ban him from the scene.

This man is vile, evil, and has no place in decent society. He is buying a drug that is the sole treatment for a parasite, and a common co-treatment of both HIV/AIDS and various cancers and gouging it because what else are you going to do? Die? Thanks for the money, chump.

edited 22nd Sep '15 6:01:13 PM by Lanceleoghauni

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#42321: Sep 22nd 2015 at 6:16:39 PM

Team Imagine bought Team Leviathan of Dota 2 just last month, so I actually heard about this news on the Dota 2 Reddit. And from this "news" article.

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stargirl93 Snowy from Zemuria Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
Snowy
#42322: Sep 22nd 2015 at 6:36:16 PM

See on the one hand I want Riot to do something and boot the guy, but on the other hand it's not like this has anything to do with the game itself...

RabidTanker God-Mayor of Sim-Kind Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
#42323: Sep 22nd 2015 at 7:03:40 PM

So in order to change the subject to something more relavant and less witch huntish, I'm Level 4 right now and I'm wondering where can I post on their NA boards?

Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break
OrangeSpider Must Keep The Web Intact from Ursalia Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Must Keep The Web Intact
#42324: Sep 22nd 2015 at 7:38:49 PM

I am not sure you can actually post on the official NA boards with a lvl 4 account.

They set up a level limit to try and discourage people from trolling on the boards a while ago.

The Great Northern Threadkill.
RabidTanker God-Mayor of Sim-Kind Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
#42325: Sep 26th 2015 at 5:45:52 PM

Is there something wrong with the boards? Because in-game, I'm level 5; but the NA boards says I'm still at level 1.

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