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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#53652: Mar 21st 2018 at 12:33:35 PM

Archon: Blitzer was the smallest 3 MJ one though. I can see the bigger 10 MJ one being really handy for hyper-sonic intercepts though. That and dropping a package High Mach fuck you on someone.

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#53653: Mar 21st 2018 at 12:37:52 PM

I do wonder if Miyazaki should make a new film about denouncing some of his country's Far Right's attempts at trying to be resurrect imperialism.

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#53654: Mar 21st 2018 at 12:40:54 PM

Tuefel: The 3MJ one is supposedly able to get up to Mach 4 or 5, so I’m expecting to be impressed by the bigger ones.

They should have sent a poet.
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#53655: Mar 21st 2018 at 2:07:53 PM

I think another advantage of railguns over conventional artillery is that, since they don't burn gunpowder, they don't produce any flash, noise, or muzzle blast — or at least, nothing near as horrific as a sixteen-inch naval gun. I'm sure the projectile would produce a sonic boom, but at the railgun itself, you wouldn't need to take cover below decks before firing it.

So, like a sniper armed with a suppressed rifle, you'd have to guess at where the shot came from.

edited 21st Mar '18 2:10:05 PM by pwiegle

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#53656: Mar 21st 2018 at 2:44:46 PM

[up] I think they’re still pretty loud. If you check out the videos of them firing you can see there’s a pretty significant blast.

They should have sent a poet.
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#53657: Mar 21st 2018 at 3:02:00 PM

Japan never really stopped having a military, they just stopped having a military capable of power projection outside of Japan.

Before this recent round of 'hey we're building helicopter destroyers the size of small aircraft carriers that can also be used with airplanes' nonsense, the JSDF was sort of in the same position as the Bundeswehr - intentionally limited in the kinds of operations they could carry out. There's a reason why the largest single economy in Europe has no aircraft carriers, for example.

Japan having a military capable of a standoff with an increasingly hawkish China is one thing. Japan trying to become a hard power player in Southeast Asia? Not so much. In fact, that might just fan the flames of Chinese war hawks because, hey, there are scars that run very deep, and tens of millions of people dead leaves very deep scars.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Imca (Veteran)
#53658: Mar 21st 2018 at 4:03:57 PM

The problem is our previous military was utterly incapable of even giving China a token standoff, especially with how aggressive they have gotten and how much they have grown... Its one of those cases where the administration in charge is ass, but it is still needed due to the reality of the situation.

Boats armed with a 20mm, can't put up even a token resistance to the Chinese...

Edit: Firewriter please, Miyazaki is neither relevant to this conversation, and his latest movie was actualy quite pro-war

edited 21st Mar '18 4:06:27 PM by Imca

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#53659: Mar 21st 2018 at 4:11:16 PM

In that case I'd think it would happen faster if a self replicating mineral fell on Earth and a seemingly immortal bald man with a awesome goatee showed up.
Seriously thought you meant a different bald man.

In case no one heard, the Navy is planning to cut our number of hospital ships in half. Because who needs to help the sick and injured when natural disasters strike. Full article text 

A hospital ship could become a casualty as the Navy seeks to free more money to spend on warships, submarines and aircraft.

The Navy proposes mothballing one of its two floating hospitals — the USNS Mercy or the USNS Comfort — to make budgetary room to expand its fighting capabilities. These 1,000-bed ships have provided medical care during wars and disasters since they were converted from oilers in the late 1980s. Most recently, the Comfort went to Puerto Rico in the aftermath of hurricanes Irma and Maria.

The Navy’s proposed 2019 budget of $151.4 billion would be a $12.6 billion increase over the previous year and calls for adding 46 ships to the current 280 over the next five years. For 2019, the Navy looks to add two submarines, three destroyers and 24 F-18A Super Hornets. But Navy leaders say the increased production still falls short of the pace needed to meet a long-term goal of a 355-ship fleet in 30 years.

Some lawmakers have questioned the Navy’s plan to retire one of the hospital ships, saying they both are needed to treat mass casualties when no hospitals ashore are available. “We have an obligation to our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines, and also the civilians across this world,” said Rep. Trent Kelly, R-Miss., at a March 8 congressional hearing. “There will come a time when we need that and we need to always be ready.”

Air Force Gen. Darren Mc Dew, head of the U.S. Transportation Command, told lawmakers that tough decisions are required even with a budget increase. Still, the loss of a hospital ship would be felt during a crisis, when hundreds of patients would have to be airlifted to a distant hospital, Mc Dew said.

“I’m a big fan of hospital ships because I love the fact that we can help injured and ill (service)members,” Mc Dew said. Losing a hospital ship would dramatically increase needs for large aircraft to transport patients, Mc Dew added.

The Mercy has mostly operated in the Pacific, and the Comfort in the Atlantic and the Persian Gulf. The Comfort assisted in the aftermath of Katrina, the Haitian earthquake and the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Both have operating rooms, intensive care units, burn wards and radiology facilities, as well as general medical and dental services. They each carry up to 1,200 personnel and have landing decks for airlifting patients from shore.

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#53660: Mar 21st 2018 at 4:12:31 PM

Japan is also interested on getting in on the action in the Middle East too. They've been interested for a while, but don't really have the will or power projection capabilities to do so in a meaningful capacity.

They should have sent a poet.
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#53661: Mar 21st 2018 at 5:30:14 PM

Archon: Even the 3 MJ one is already moving faster than most missiles, drones, and aircraft it could possibly intercept and would make it more effective at engaging ballistic missile threats at the tactical and possibly the theatre level. I know they were also tinkering with installing guidance systems in the projectiles and we know they already did the fragmentation tests.

pwiegle: Archon has it. Though looking at the latest footage from the auto-loader test the muzzle blast and report a re less severe and seem a lot more like current rapid fire deck guns in use. Check it out here Despite the music it captures the gun firing and it sounds like modern deck guns and the muzzle blast is less severe than some of the earlier tests.

edited 21st Mar '18 5:32:26 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#53662: Mar 21st 2018 at 5:38:09 PM

Tuefel: Yeah, I figured. I know there was an RFP for a fire control system capable of engaging light aircraft attached to the railgun project a while back but I think it got discarded. If anything I'd like to see it be able to engage small drones, that would be a very relevant capability for the modern battlefield. The Russians have shown at Khmeimim that having something like their Pantsir to defend against small drones is vital.

They should have sent a poet.
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#53663: Mar 21st 2018 at 6:13:35 PM

SPAAG or other systems for some drone intercept could be useful in certain contexts I also like the drone jammers that have been showing up, but the hardened to jamming systems that actual militaries will use are likely a whole other critter. Even the US started making the switch over to more secure systems over the last half decade of so since they saw themselves facing peer or near peer threats. Though the US has been getting a lot better with our EW capabilities and we seem to be pushing pretty hard in that direction recently.

God help us once they created actual functional fielded drone swarms that need minimal input.

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#53664: Mar 21st 2018 at 6:30:58 PM

I'd be interested to know what kinds of counter-swarm strategies are in the works, though I suppose at some point a swarm of your own will be the only viable defense.

They should have sent a poet.
Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53665: Mar 21st 2018 at 7:03:10 PM

@archon

- I read stuff online that the SBU would be deployed in Iraq in case Japanese hostages were confirmed to be held prisoner. This obviously never went through.

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#53666: Mar 22nd 2018 at 3:15:36 AM

@Imca Yeah, that's sort of my point. Reform was necessary, it's just that the people rebuilding the military are big fans of war criminals known for waging a war of aggression in Southeast Asia and unless something is tempering them, it's not going to end well.

I guess I'm hoping the brass in the JSDF can remember what they're gearing up for and what they're not.

edited 22nd Mar '18 3:18:07 AM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#53667: Mar 22nd 2018 at 3:30:22 AM

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War criminals whose actions, I should add, are regularly swept under the rug as official government policy.

edited 22nd Mar '18 3:30:39 AM by TheWildWestPyro

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#53668: Mar 22nd 2018 at 1:44:47 PM

Here's a weird one. New non-lethal technology being developed by the Do D with some unusual applications, one of which involves generating a ball of plasma in midair that can replicate noises, and hopefully one day speech as well. [1]

They should have sent a poet.
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#53669: Mar 22nd 2018 at 2:27:42 PM

That looks and sounds a lot like the PEP weapon project including the ability to heat up air to create noise using pulsed lasers. There was an older project they wanted to heat up the air to not only create a flash bang effect but a small localized explosion to act as active defense. I don't think it got anywhere though.

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#53670: Mar 23rd 2018 at 9:12:02 PM

I have a question about guass weaponry, what kind of metal would make the best ammunition?

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#53671: Mar 23rd 2018 at 9:56:25 PM

You could probably ask this in the sci-fi threads in world building.

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Imca (Veteran)
#53672: Mar 24th 2018 at 1:10:39 AM

Probably steel though, nice, heavy, magnetic, has some AP properties, and is abundant.

Honestly not being fancy is best when it is just going to be shot out of a gun any way.

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#53673: Mar 24th 2018 at 1:51:48 AM

Anything with magnetism would work. Unlike railguns, gauss weapons require a projectile that's at least magnetic.

edited 24th Mar '18 1:52:14 AM by archonspeaks

They should have sent a poet.
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#53674: Mar 24th 2018 at 7:15:53 AM

GSDF to launch Japanese version of marines on Tuesday

The Ground Self-Defense Force will launch an amphibious rapid deployment brigade on Tuesday that is regarded as Japan’s version of the U.S. Marines.

In the GSDF’s largest reorganization ever, the new unit was formed in response to China’s growing assertiveness in the East China Sea and tensions with North Korea. The 2,100-strong force will be based at Camp Ainoura in Sasebo, Nagasaki Prefecture, and is designed to play a key role in retaking remote islands that fall into enemy hands.

The new brigade will comprise a mainstay amphibious unit and a landing unit to operate amphibious assault vehicles currently used by the U.S. Marines. If a remote island is invaded, the troops will be delivered to the front line by these vehicles and Osprey transport aircraft the GSDF plans to acquire from the United States.

The force will use 30 imported amphibious assault vehicles after they are remodeled to GSDF specifications. But only 12 will be available when the brigade launches due a delay in delivery. There is also uncertainty about the deployment window for the Ospreys amid lingering concerns about their safety.

As part of its structural reform, the GSDF will also establish a Ground Component Command to oversee its five regional commands, a change aimed at fostering smooth operations with the Air and Maritime Self-Defense forces, as well as the U.S. military.

The new centralized command will be set up at Camp Asaka, which straddles Tokyo and Saitama Prefecture. A Japan-U.S. joint division will meanwhile be established at the U.S. Army’s Camp Zama in Kanagawa Prefecture.

The GSDF is also revamping its 15 divisions and brigades in stages. Eight of them will be equipped with mobile combat vehicles to enable quick responses to military contingencies, including on the Japan-administered Senkaku Islands, which are also claimed by latecomers China and Taiwan.

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#53675: Mar 24th 2018 at 7:23:53 AM

[up][up] Huh? I thought gauss guns and railguns where the same thing. In that case what type of metal would be best for a railgun?


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