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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#42976: Oct 10th 2015 at 4:58:54 AM

So one of the train heroes from France is back in the hospital, sporting fresh stab wounds from a night drinking.

Just weeks ago, U.S. Airman 1st Class Spencer Stone was tending to stab wounds after famously helping thwart a gun attack on a European train, feted internationally as a hero. On Thursday he was in serious condition at a California hospital, having been stabbed again — this time during a night out with friends in an altercation for which he faces no criminal accusations, officials say.

Surveillance video shows 30 seconds of high drama and raw violence in midtown Sacramento before 1 a.m. Thursday. What starts with a few punches thrown on a dark street corner quickly spills into the street. Five or six people are in the middle of it all pushing, shoving and trading blows. One man falls to the ground at one point, only to quickly bounce back. Eventually, the two sparring sides go their separate ways.

Stone was one of those who walked away. But he did so with multiple stab wounds, Sacramento Deputy Police Chief Ken Bernard told reporters. Bernard singled out two males who allegedly had a part in wounding Stone, who had been visiting bars in the area with four friends.

Stone was taken to UC Davis Medical Center with what Bernard called significant, but apparently non-life-theatening, stab wounds. Stone, who is stationed at nearby Travis Air Force Base, on Friday was in fair condition — upgraded from serious a day earlier. He was "able to get out of bed and in good spirits," and is expected to make a full recovery, the hospital said.

"The family of Airman Spencer Stone appreciates the outpouring of love and support," UC Davis Health Systems said. Bernard declined to detail what led to the stabbing. He said police don't believe it had anything to do with Stone's celebrity, and a conversation between Stone's group — a male friend and three female friends — and another group somewhere in midtown led to the assault "down the block."

Sacramento police said detectives re-interviewed a 24-year old woman Thursday afternoon who was at the fight and suffered minor injuries. She was treated at a hospital and released. "At this point we have no reason to believe Mr. Stone is in any kind of (legal) trouble," Bernard said. The assailants fled. Police said they're looking for two Asian males who were wearing blue jeans and white T-shirts, and left in what's believed to be a dark gray or black 2009-2012 Toyota Camry. Bernard said he didn't know whether Stone had been drinking, though others in his party had been. He added that the case is still under investigation.

Stone was one of five men who officials say stopped a gunman from attacking passengers of an Amsterdam-to-Paris train in August. Stone rushed the gunman and was slashed several times with a box cutter in the process, almost severing this thumb, officials said. He also tended to one of his fellow heroes, French-American Mark Moogalian. The latter was shot while confronting the gunman, and Stone, after the gunman was subdued, was credited with helping stop Moogalian's bleeding.

All five were celebrated. Stone, Moogalian and the other three — Briton Chris Norman and Stone's two American friends, Anthony Sadler and Army National Guard Spc. Alek Skarlatos — received France's highest recognition, the Legion of Honor. Skarlatos parlayed his fame to a spot on this season's "Dancing with the Stars" on ABC. He took to Twitter Thursday to ask for prayers for his friend. "Everybody send prayers out to the Stone family today," his tweet reads.

edited 10th Oct '15 4:59:51 AM by BlueNinja0

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#42978: Oct 10th 2015 at 7:00:33 AM

[up]

Well they do have that sweet oil money. Our military has to do more cuts in their operations, since we literally are running out of money, and they're currently unsustainable. The only thing that doesn't lose anything is personnel training.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#42979: Oct 10th 2015 at 3:46:47 PM

Welp, we're all going to die.

Although it's a tabloid headline, so take it with a mountain of salt.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#42980: Oct 10th 2015 at 4:53:56 PM

That's from the 'paper' that makes the Express look sane, and the Express is the paper that makes the Nazi supporting Mail look sane. They admit to making things up and their headlines have giant leaps of logic. Such as the one shown on our British Newspappers page.

Infamous for its misleading headlines. For instance: "JORDAN IN NEW CANCER SCARE! Shock Diagnosis for Kate and her Family!" From this, one might infer that Ms Price had cancer? Err, no. The "CANCER SCARE" was in fact this: Her boyfriend Alex Reid uses fake tan, which might cause cancer.

So this headline probably means that if British planes are fired upon by Russian aircraft they are cleared to fire back, or something like that.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#42981: Oct 10th 2015 at 5:39:19 PM

Regarding Normandy and the confusion caused by the paratroopers, it lead to a bit of battlefield wisdom known as LGO Ps: Little Groups of Paratroopers.

This is, in its purest form, small groups of 19- year old American Paratroopers. They are well-trained, armed-to-the-teeth and lack serious adult supervision. They collectively remember the Commander’s intent as “March to the sound of the guns and kill anyone who is not dressed like you…” …or something like that. Happily they go about the day’s work…

SabresEdge Show an affirming flame from a defense-in-depth Since: Oct, 2010
Show an affirming flame
#42982: Oct 10th 2015 at 6:11:38 PM

That sounds very familiar; I'm sure I've heard that quote before. Doesn't sound like Keegan or Atkinson.

Charlie Stross's cheerful, optimistic predictions for 2017, part one of three.
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#42983: Oct 11th 2015 at 12:47:08 PM

Another my writing related question.

In WW 2, were all American soldiers issued sidearms?

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#42984: Oct 11th 2015 at 12:49:21 PM

No.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#42985: Oct 11th 2015 at 12:52:10 PM

Sidearms are largely and officer and rear echelon type.

Oh really when?
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#42986: Oct 11th 2015 at 12:53:57 PM

Okay, gotcha. Thanks.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#42987: Oct 11th 2015 at 1:31:42 PM

It wasnt uncommon for those not issued one to pillage or trade for one later either as keepsake or for use.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#42988: Oct 11th 2015 at 2:16:48 PM

The 2062 clearly having not been invented yet.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#42990: Oct 11th 2015 at 10:27:09 PM

Oh Turkey, don't be that stupid. Please don't have been that stupid.

please please please.

Oh really when?
AFP Since: Mar, 2010
Imca (Veteran)
#42992: Oct 11th 2015 at 11:33:11 PM

Turkey seems to be that stupid considering multiple news thingies are reporting it.

The worst part is they are between Russia and Syria, so it might not have even been dickwaving for once.

edited 11th Oct '15 11:33:30 PM by Imca

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#42993: Oct 11th 2015 at 11:47:10 PM

-_- I think Turkey just screwed up. Big time.

First, "PKK!!! Oh, wait — nah, we meant ISIL. Really." Now, this can of Cthulhu spawn. <_<

Apparently, not enough caffeine. tongue

edited 11th Oct '15 11:49:41 PM by Euodiachloris

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#42994: Oct 11th 2015 at 11:53:11 PM

But do the Russians have MiG-29s in Syria? surprised

Keep Rolling On
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#42995: Oct 11th 2015 at 11:59:54 PM

according to the U.K. Express.

So let's not get ahead of ourselves.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
わからない
#42996: Oct 12th 2015 at 12:08:24 AM

@Not Silasw: You do know that the media's source(s) are a series of...tweets? And this person happens to "know" that a) they spotted the plane b) they scrambled c) they shot it down. Within a few hours of it happening. When AFP posted about it, it's almost 2 days old actually.

edited 12th Oct '15 1:27:26 AM by entropy13

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#42997: Oct 12th 2015 at 12:14:13 AM

It's the Express, a paper so racist and crazy that its own staff complained to the regulator about what they were being made to write.

The owners literally doesn't know the meaning of the word ethical. A reliably source the Express is not.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#42998: Oct 12th 2015 at 12:17:02 AM

[up]Good point. Insomnia: my bad.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#42999: Oct 12th 2015 at 12:55:43 AM

It's easy enough to miss, a lot of sites that seem reasonable will source back to crazy British papers and you won't notice unless you're specifically looking.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#43000: Oct 12th 2015 at 4:10:31 AM

What if Russia demands a naval base in Finland or invades a Swedish island? Finland's most paranoid fantasies are still pretty boring. I liked the article and the discussion it brought a few months back.

Also Can We Trust Our Defense Capabilities?

Heh heh. No.

edited 12th Oct '15 4:22:35 AM by TerminusEst

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