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CBanana Tall, Dark and Bishoujo Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Nov 20th 2010 at 10:34:31 AM

Truthfully, I'm not really sure that this trope can even be represented by a good picture.

Old Picture:

and that's how Equestria was made!
mmysqueeant I'm A Dirty Cowboy from Essairrrrcks Since: Oct, 2010
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#2: Nov 20th 2010 at 11:53:12 AM

...gag.

Is there a Scrappy Ship trope? Or is that just asking for trouble?

I cannot begin to imagine how you would represent this trope in its entirety.

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#3: Nov 20th 2010 at 11:56:14 AM

I think you mean No Yay.

What's precedent ever done for us?
dsneybuf (Not-So-Newbie)
#4: Nov 20th 2010 at 12:42:33 PM

You think it's necessary to include a picture of Shaggy and Velma from one of the 1960s-80s cartoons as well, or would we be better off not showing them at all?

edited 20th Nov '10 1:10:13 PM by dsneybuf

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#5: Nov 20th 2010 at 3:10:25 PM

I don't think we'll be able to show this without some text in the picture. I still have doubts even then.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#6: Nov 20th 2010 at 3:16:34 PM

I know this isn't TRS, but, what? Relationship Text Upgrade seems like Relationship Upgrade But More Specific. One is when a relationship goes from implicit to explicit, and the other is when a relationship goes from explicitly X to explicitly X+1? Uh. Huh. That is at least a weak name.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
CBanana Tall, Dark and Bishoujo Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Nov 20th 2010 at 3:22:15 PM

Relationship Upgrade is where a a couple goes from friends to lovers.

Relationship Text Upgrade is where a couple goes from implied to overt.

The difference seems obvious to me.

and that's how Equestria was made!
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#8: Nov 20th 2010 at 3:24:47 PM

[up] I did not say "the difference is not obvious". Maybe there are more serious problems (I suspect there are), but, the name being snowcloned/similar when the ideas are supposed to be different is weak, the name should probably emphasize their difference, not their similarity (and Relationship Text Upgrade is... short on meaning).

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#9: Nov 20th 2010 at 3:25:12 PM

Yeah the difference between the two borderline IMO... this one is a subtext to flirty upgrade? While the other is flirty to full on dating? (Guessing)

Anyway looking at the examples the DS 9 Kira / Odo "Why don't you kiss me" moment might make a good image.

edited 20th Nov '10 3:26:23 PM by Raso

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CBanana Tall, Dark and Bishoujo Since: Jan, 2001
#10: Nov 20th 2010 at 5:00:10 PM

The thing is I don't think any picture can actually convey the trope easily which makes any picture more confusing to the trope. Also, from what I remember, Shaggy and Velma were never implied or hinted at which means they never qualified for the trope in the first place.

and that's how Equestria was made!
dsneybuf (Not-So-Newbie)
#11: Nov 20th 2010 at 5:08:00 PM

Guess their entry in the "Western Animation" section of that article would have to go, as well.

Leaper Since: May, 2009
#12: Nov 20th 2010 at 5:33:01 PM

I think so. I believe the only reason some people thought it was "covert" in the first place was that Fred/Daphne was seemingly so evident, and there was some Pair the Spares (or not believing that two people of the opposite gender could just be friends - forget which trope that is) going on.

helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#13: Nov 23rd 2010 at 5:40:02 PM

I don't think there's any way to represent this trope visually. If we see things like Luminescent Blush or Longing Look, it's not subtle enough to count. Those are direct implications.

edited 24th Nov '10 12:08:09 AM by helterskelter

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